Cherry vs. other stone fruits, new grower perspectives

Every time I look they are sold out. I try to buy from them but end up at Raintree or Grandpa’s or other nursery. Currently I’m not looking for trees though.

Great idea Johnny! You should get a lot of rootstock that way.

I’m going to have to add trees to my sister’s property. She has five acres of sunshine!

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You typically need to place orders in July or August.

OK, will do! Thanks!

Where do you get the z dwarf rootstock?

Gotta buy whole trees to get the Z-Dwarf. That rootstock alone is not sold separately.

Dave Wilson Nursery has the rights from Zaiger. Their affiliates are Raintree, Sanhedrin, and Bay Laurel nurseries, each of which occassionally offer cherry trees on Z-Dwarf.

Z-Dwarf was previously named Newroot-1 and was tested as 3CR-178 (all synonymous).

For example - as of today - Sanhedrin Nursery currently has Black Tartarian cherry for sale on Z-Dwarf rootstock.

My local wholesale nursery sells almost all cherry varieties on Z dwarf. I bought bing on one last year.

Thanks Matt

Hi scott,

I am European, and what you say is not true, the best cherries in story to taste, brix and texture, belong to southern Europe. I also want to make an assessment, not taste the same fruit shops, fruit that we grow even if it is the same variety. My cherry trees, grafted onto these patterns, cold, maxma14 and Santa Lucia 64, and develop very well.
Acontinuación I put a link so that people can see one of the southern growing areas, producing prestige, that has nothing to do with the North.
http://www.cerezasvallejerte.com/la_cereza_del_jerte

a greeting

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Cherries are one of my favorite fruits.

if you have problems with birds, there are several varieties of cherries are completely yellow, these cherries are never attacked by the birds because they believe that they are not yet mature.

if you have problems with rootstocks can make or bridge grafts adara Monrepos (both are low winter rest), even adara can be used directly as rootstocks, if it goes well myrobolan on his land, adara will work equally well

the best cherry trees that are being sold today come from the University of Bologna in Italy, the “sweet” series can reach a weight of 15 grams (twice bing cherry) and a sweetness of up to 24 brix.
These cherry trees are already selling in Spain and Italy south so I deduce that are varieties of very low winter rest (the star series of the University of Bologna just need 400 or 500 hours of cold and was developed many years ago, it it is logical to think that the “sweet” series need even fewer hours of cold to meet the Italian farmer)

SWEET ARYANA http://www.ciliegio.unibo.it/images/stories/doc/sweet/scheda_aryana.pdf
SWEET LORENZ http://www.ciliegio.unibo.it/images/stories/doc/sweet/scheda_lorenz.pdf
SWEET GABRIEL http://www.ciliegio.unibo.it/images/stories/doc/sweet/scheda_gabriel.pdf
SWEET VALINA http://www.ciliegio.unibo.it/images/stories/doc/sweet/scheda_valina.pdf
SWEET SARETTA http://www.ciliegio.unibo.it/images/stories/doc/sweet/scheda_saretta.pdf

these cherries besides having very high brix of sweetness, have a very low acidity

Finally there is the marysa variety that if you have high acidity
MARYSA http://www.unibo.it/it/ricerca/imprese-e-ricerca/brevetti/2014/allegati/scheda-tecnica/@@download/file/MARYSA-Scheda%20Tecnica.pdf

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Around here the trees developed out of the Cornell University, New York, program are exceptional. All are canker resistant too. Sweet, firm, long shelf life, low cracking. Look for the Pearl series.

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The best quality (modern) big fat sweet cherries are cultivated in the northern part of Europe

N. Europe has a temperate continental climate, in contrast to Spain, it has a Mediterranean warm climate, for cherries this is too dry and too hot, imported sweet cherries from Spain and Turkey, are more soft in texture and have hardly aromas

The cherry tree is a crop of relatively warm climate, which is suitable microclimate to produce the best cherry ?, Well you have to give special conditions, humidity, altitude above sea level, average annual sunshine, soil acidity, hours of cold, etc. All these factors directly influence the texture and final sweetness of the fruit.

Currently the market is imposing the rules, and demand large and good taste products, if a person give to choose from a small cherry and other large, your choice will be the large cherry, so today, all plantations are made with large varieties. Cherry has a natural enemy, which is the rain, which directly influences their collection, producing cracking affecting the largest fruit there, the weather conditions directly affect the fruit.

You can not compare Turkey to Spain and Italy, as matri points, varieties of the University of Bologna, have a very proven quality, size, flavor and appearance.

I’ll put a video of a Spanish area, where the optimal caractarísticas for growing cherry, one of the major production areas across Europe, with 35 million kilos are given, of which 80% are exported to England , Germany and Russia in the area more than 100 different varieties are grown. Hope you like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuz__QgyNHA

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I guess it’s a matter of perspective. You guys do produce a lot of cherries, but not as many as Iran, Turkey, the USA, or Italy. But numbers are just numbers. Alcedo makes a good point about quality of the fruit, size and firmness. I myself love the cherries produced in my climate. Crunchy, very good!

Matrix- thanks for the information on the SWEET series of cherries from Bologna. It’s the first time I’ve heard of these. Do you have any experience growing these?
Pajaro - I know Spain has many different climate regions and I’m sure there are areas where cherries thrive. The area in the video is beautiful.

these varieties of cherries are very hot, they are beginning to grow professionally in Spain and Italy, are varieties even in “evaluation” must see that production has and disease resistance

Spain is the 6th largest producer of cherry and the third largest exporter

cherries in Spain, are grown in cold valleys and in areas of medium and high mountain, ideal for growing cherry areas (Spain has several microclimates, has Mediterranean climate but inside is suitable for growing cherry continental climate) .

I give you an example, in munich and berlin (germany) in the coming days will make a maximum temperature of 20 degrees and a minimum of 5 degrees
http://www.foreca.com/Germany/Munich?tenday
http://www.foreca.com/Germany/Berlin?tenday

and Leon and Soria (Spain) the maximum temperature is 17 degrees and 0 degrees minimum
http://www.foreca.com/Spain/Soria?tenday
http://www.foreca.com/Spain/Leon?tenday

if I agree with you that sometimes cherries or other fruits have little flavor or aroma, but that is because the recojen before maturing to have better conservation and withstand longer without rotting so that they can carry markets, sometimes consume fruits that take two months cojidos and stored in a cold room, … but that happens in all countries of the world, is why the members of this forum grow our own fruit, to collect it and eat it at their optimum moment