Electric fences for controlling raccoons and possums

There are at least 2 racoon and something else. I’m not sure if the other thing is a fox or a dog. I tried to upload the video, but the site doesn’t allow it. So I’ve just taken a couple pics instead.

Dog/Fox/???:

2 Racoon:

One goes in, but doesn’t appear to go far enough to trigger it.

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looks like a fox to me

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Fox

Fox

Red foxes live here also, but so far none of the younger/smaller ones have ended up in the trap. Probably because they would have to get over the 4 ft chain link fence to reach the trap area. Instead of leaving the wire trap open so that critters walk all around and climb on top of the trap, I prefer to have sort of a boxed-in tunnel that they have no other options when trying to reach the bait but to just walk right in through the only access: the door. Also, I don’t want the rodent to push on the external wire linkage while climbing onto the trap and thus prematurely springing the trap door attached to that linkage. First, one trap side is placed snug against a wall. The back of the trap is against concrete steps. The other long side has a heavy wooden “wall”( made for some other purpose) consisting of 2 - 6 X 6 beams that happen to be as long as the trap. This wooden wall is close but not against the trap wire so that the linkage operating the trap door won’t be pinched. I lay a couple concrete blocks on top to both divert the rodent to the open door and to hold it down firmly. And the long bait trail leads straight to the tunnel entrance. Aren’t game cameras great…Nice pics.

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Lots of targets of opportunity. Game cameras clue you in on how/why your traps don’t catch your prey.
What a great community service you will be providing. :wink:
If you need to post a video, create a channel on YouTube and upload to that - very easy. Then just post the link to it.

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Thanks for the ID, @Moley, @fruitnut, and @Auburn. I’ve never caught one, but I suppose I need to figure out what to do if that happens.

I found one website which said (bold added by me):
Red foxes primarily feed on voles, mice, gerbils, deer mice, birds, mouse-like rodents, woodchucks, galliformes, waterfowls, ground squirrels, hamsters, leporids, raccoons, opossums, reptiles, and other invertebrates such as porcupines, and flotsam.

I found it especially interesting that I had videos of raccoon, then the fox, then raccoon again. Almost as if the raccoon took off when the fox arrived, then came back after he left. A bit surprising though, as the raccoon look at least as big as the fox.

On the negative, the page also mentions that foxes feed on “strawberries, plums, apples, and blackberries”.

I only caught a cat once. I didn’t need to roll the trap around to convince the cat to not come back. It must not have been a pleasant experience to spend the night trapped, as I’ve still seen it around occasionally, but not close to a cage.

I’ve done that before with a tarp. It worked well in the past (especially for groundhogs), but not this year, as the bait still ends up missing. I try to wedge the cage against something, which is what the propane tank is for. They managed to free the smaller cage from between 3 logs and tossed it about 5’ (second time in the last week).

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In may area of the country water is ungoshly expensive. This becomes relevant because most electric fences require a level of ground moisture to be effective deterrents. Unfortunately, here, when sweet corn ripens we are usually in the dry season rendering electric fencing as non-viable.

So I get a live trap/dispose on site permit from the DNR. For all their brains I have never found a raccoon that could resist marshmallows.

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I love your picture. LMAO!

When you can’t get a good soil ground with an electric fence, alternating ground and hot wires will work. Also works to put the hot wire on standoff insulators and use a wire fence as a ground. This has worked for me with bears, can’t say about raccoons as I don’t think they are up here (yet).

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Steve thanks for pointing that out. I need to brush up on how electrical fences work, options for grounding them, etc. I was wondering about the feasibility of keeping an electric fence going through the winter here in zone 7a. I was going to use the double fence method (mainly for deer exclusion) where the inner fence has two wires and the outer one has one wire intermediate in height between the two inner fence wires. We don’t get a lot of snow overall but occasionally we get 10-20 inches and it stays around for a few days. If the snow reached the wire it would need to be cleared away for the fence to be functional. So if you are using a soil ground, and the first few inches of soil are frozen, is this going to prevent the fence from being hot? What if the ground is deep enough to reach soil that is not frozen - would it work then? Are their any other considerations to keeping an electric fence going in cold weather?

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Steve, you might want to check with an expert, but I would not think that frozen ground or a thin layer of snow would hurt the effectiveness of an electric fence. Snow levels getting up to the hot wires would I suspect short out the fence, just as weeds or other ground contact with the hot wires will.

I have heard that the double electric fence for deer is quite effective, but have never tried it myself.

One problem is much of the deer fencing info is geared towards summertime, that is keeping them out of the vegie garden. Not as much info for keeping them out of orchards, which are attractive to deer year round (with the exception of tall conventional fences that is). Perhaps members from the more northern areas might have some info regarding electric fencing and deep snow.

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Mike and others with squirrel issues - i’m new to this forum - just joined to find out what others are doing to combat being over run by tree rats - They know when to pick and already stripped my peach and plum trees this year - i have pawpaw and persimmon trees with young fruit and I want to get ahead of them before fruit ripens. do elec fences really work? Premier fence said they don’t recommend for squirrels - Looking for a good solution and guidance. TJ.

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@jose263

Mine will get its first real test with squirrels this summer.

My fight last year was with Chipmunks. I installed chicken wire on top of the regular size chain link fence.

If you look at my drawing early on you will see that I install the electric fence off the ground mid-way up on the perimeter fence. This keeps the weeds or grasses from growing into the fence to short it out. (although a good herbicide applied to the ground under the fence would solve that problem).

My experimental set up is to help squirrels and raccoons and other climbers out as it forces them to traverse a 28 inch grid that has the “hot” and “cold” wires 3-7 inches apart.

This year the mission is to seal all of the tiny openings around the chicken wire fence to keep the bastardial (is that a word, if not I claim copyright :grinning:) Chipmunks out.

Mike

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Mike - thanks - I’ll look-up your draweing. (do you have a link?)
I am considering trying this http://www.kencove.com/fence/Electric+Net+Fencing_detail_NPCW.php
My need for critter barriers/fencing is seasonal. I only need to protect a tree when it has fruit ripening and this netting is portable so thinking it could be moved as needed. Not cheap but looks alot more simple. I am trying to avoid a permanent fence. BTW - I think you own that word…

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@jose263

The drawing is earlier in this thread. Go back to Feb 2016

This the one I use.

http://www.kencove.com/fence/Electric+Net+Fencing_detail_NR72.php
Mike

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OK- I found your drawing - To be sure I understand your set up - you have a chain-link fence around your garden - I’m assuming 4 ft or 6 ft.height? Then you installed the 28" electric netting at 24" above ground - since the netting comes with it’s own posts - how did you get it to start at that height? without grounding out on the chainlink?
I don’t have an existing fence yet - do you think that the 28" high netting would be effective against squirrels if placed at ground level? or should I go with the 48" height?

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Mike - one more question - then I’ll leave you alone and I do appreciate your experience.
Do you use the posi/neg or the regular netting? Thanks

@jose263

No need to leave me alone.

  1. I use the fence with the POS± NEG .

  2. The 28 inch should be enough. If 28 inch won’t stop it, 48 won’t be do much better.

  3. See the photo below. I attached wood panels to the fence at the same intervals as the built in posts on the net. The wood acts as an insulator between the electric fence and the chain link fence. BTW, the chain link fence and the chicken wire fence are both vinyl covered which by itself is an insulator.

For those using non-vinyl covered fencing there are spaces that are made specifically to mount electricals to metal fences. See below.
http://www.kencove.com/fence/Backside+T-Post+Insulator_detail_IBS.php

Mike

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