On the old 'wait ‘til after a frost/freeze’ thing… if I waited that late, I’d never get a persimmon around here.
Best, most dependable persimmon in my orchard is also one of the first I ever grafted - ‘NC-10’. Annual heavy crop of fruits, with ripening usually beginning around 10 Sept. I’d been gathering daily and pulping/freezing or drying them for a couple of weeks… then got busy and had to let things go for a week or more. Went out to check the situation this past Saturday evening (7 Oct)… and they were all gone. None left in the tree to drop. ‘Keener’ tree, 20 ft away still has a few fruits remaining… drying/shriveling on the tree, but still with some astringency.
I think all the kakis that I’ve grafted through the years have died out… got a weeping kaki started this spring, but we’ll have to see how - or if - it survives. Saijo was good the couple of years it bore here before it died out.
Rosseyanka, grafted back around 1998, almost succumbed to a double-whammy of borers and the Polar Vortex a couple of years back. Killed it back to the main trunk. Is re-growing (I think) from above where I think the graft union is… but I guess until it fruits again, I won’t know for sure.