So far Prok has been seedless here in North Ga. but only had a couple fruits ripen
So far Prok has been seedless here in North Ga. but only had a couple fruits ripen
Phil,
Mine had 3 seeds or so in each fruit. The pollinators could be from the Meader or Early Golden families. Do you like the taste?
Tony
It was very good. my favorite American I have tasted. Thin skin and clear rich flesh. I have lots of wild male American around but most everything I have that I Imagine are 90 Chromsome that might possibly pollinate like a Yates/Juhl right beside it and Meader and Early Golden somewhat close are young not much flower yet and not sure which might have any male flower.
@cousinfloyd I recently attended the 2017 NAFEX/NNGA annual meeting. Jerry Lehman basically said during his presentation that Meader is worthless and full of seeds. I know that doesnât really answer your question. Also, I do have Prok and Yates, but no fruit yet. It appears these more northern cultivars grow extremely slowly down here in zone 8. Also, the leaves are riddled with dark brown blotching, I read something about this in a pomona article. I may be able to locate it. The hybrids are very vigorous for me.
Also, Jerry did mention something about part of a âfemaleâ tree developing male flowers. I need to look at my notes, if I took any.
Donât know if this qualifies as an answer but âSzukisâ is hermaphrodite.
Dax
Fantastic.
Tomorrow I will visit Jerry Lehman.
Dax
does Lehman work with Asian-American hybrids? If you think of it, can you ask him his opinion of the best âAsian persimmon-flavoredâ hardy hybrids, released or even just in pipeline?
I have a few things Iâm going to try nursing along a few years, and perhaps growing Tony-in-Omaha-style, but I assume Lehman might have some inside infoâŚ
He likes a lot, âRosseyankaâ and âNikitaâs Giftâ. Iâm sure others will come up tomorrow and Iâll have my ears wide open.
Dax
He brought the JT-02 from Japan to Terre H. Indiana. I think he got something else from Ukraine Botanical gardens.
Tony
Tony et al,
My friend gave me his persimmons today. They are only2" or less wide. I think they are A persimmon. He did not know the variety. They were perfumed and sweet. Seedless.
Spoke too soon. Some had seeds, small, thin seeds that I could easily chewed.
Strudeldog,
Your Prok are more round and flat while @tonyOmahaz5âs Prok are more cone shape. Donât you think.
I asked because my friend texted me saying the persimmon he sent me were either Prok or Yates. I compared mine to the pics of Prok and Yates. Mine looked like Yates.
Yes you appear right. This is the 1st year it has held fruit to mature for me. It has a Virginiana ish leaf so I am not sure if it was not true what it would be. This tree was from Stark Brothers. I have a Prok from Chestnut Hill that has not fruited yet. I still have a couple fruits on it. I am thinking they are not as squat as the fruit I showed
My friend also bought his persimmon trees from Starks several years ago. I think he may have bought both Prok and Yates. I know he has two trees. Thatâs why he said it could be either of two.
Iâve eaten Prok now from Red Fern Farm and from Jerry Lehmanâs. Prok is oblong and not flat and squat.
This is Prok during my visit at Red Fern Farm:
Dax
I have Yates from them Starks as well. It is a smaller fruit, The one I posted if by chance is not Prok is not Yates/juhl. I might have to go back and see what else Stark Brothers carries The foilage has an American look to it. The fruit looks a lot like my Nikitaâs gift
Mine are definitely round and squat. They are not big, about 2", more or less.
Since my friend has only Prok and Yates. I feel confident that these are Yates.
Iâve never seen Yates. Youâre right though.
Dax
Mamuang,
The persimmons that you showed are Yates. They are round and squat. Prok is a little bigger at 2 1/2 inches and oblong. How did you like the taste? Nothing like the Fuyu type. I liked them a lot.
Tony
Nothing like Fuyu, indeed. These Yates have strong perfume when biting into them. They are sweet. The texture is soft, jello-.like.
I like the texture and the sweetness. After eating 4 in a row, I donât know if I like such perfume I tasted. (It sounds weird but it had strong perfume, hard to describe). It was almost too intense for me.