Thank you @alan, I appreciate your response as well! I have some peach, apricot, and sour cherry that are 3 & 4 yrs in the ground, planted as 2 yr olds, that have too much upright growth… I had tried spreading limbs to create desired crotch angles the first year, then bent and tied branches to coax down towards horizontal last year. I didn’t get desired results on some, I should have been making adjustments where needed. So in looking at my 1 yr old apples, peaches, and pears, I am trying to figure this out in my mind how I will encourage growth and maturity, shape wide crotch angles, not stunt growth by bending too much or too soon… just trying to figure it all out. I suppose I also need to get over the fear of using hinges at some point, if needed! Your posts, as well as others’, help tremendously, thanks!!