Very well said Muddy. By the way my plum blooms have not full opened yet. As fruitnut mentioned they are weeks to early but who knows I’m still optimistic.
Speaking of jerks, what a way to welcome someone to the discussion. As I said in my intro, I just joined in. I am no troll, but I am not stupid either. You are an expert in shutting down anything resembling an intelligent discussion. I have a yard full of fruit trees and fruiting plants. Apricots, peaches, apples, blueberries, plums, grapes and Kiwi. I have lost entire seasons of produce as a result of early bloom followed by late frost. This is a topic of great concern to me and I resent being shut out of the conversation because you can’t handle a reasoned discussion of the obvious changes that are taking place. Such an attitude only moves me to look elsewhere for information on fruit growing where a reasoned discussion of proactive solutions to problems can happen without the political contamination that you introduced.
Thank you Muddy for a much more welcoming attitude. I will check it out if I don’t get dragged off in tar and feathers before I get there.
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By the way, Muddy, my earlier was a response to “amadioranch”, sorry for getting a little hot.
Welcome Cataniam very recently a topic was started about that that didn’t end well. You have no way to know that but a lot of people are very sensitive about that. Amadioranch is a great guy so give him a chance and hopefully everyone forgets about it. We are very glad you joined the forum.
Welcome to our forum Cat, Amadio is a great guy. We swapped scions and shared infos on gardening and fruit trees. We all want to learn here and try to avoid heated topic that’s all. Let start over and welcome to your new community.
Tony
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Its not brought up because doing so is a jerky move thats only done to cause strife
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You’ve just fulfilled your prophesy. Cat is new to the forum but he didn’t join it today- he’s been here over a month. Cat’s not the one that may need some declawing here, IMO
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two days ago 55 today winter wonderland.
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Clark, I’m staying pessimistic for now, but getting more hopeful each time we go into a cold spell without having my stone fruits blossom, yet.
One thing that I have found very interesting is that the buds on scions I have received from farther north, areas that have gotten more chill than here, are actually fatter and more developed than my own. So, even if I continue to have concerns about my trees and the effects that our very warm December has had on them, I am more concerned for those of you that have more chill accumulation between warm intervals.
Another observation this year that I find interesting is that my apples that started opening blossoms at the end of Dec/beginning of Jan continue to do so - not in the normal way of having full bloom extend over a week or 10 days, but in the manner of early forsythia blooms - in a spotty and sporadic fashion. It’s been over a month, with three chill weeks during the interval, and they are still blossoming bit by bit. These blossoms are futile, but interesting, nonetheless, because they demonstrate adaptability to varied conditions by keeping some blooms in reserve while also giving those same trees the possibility of setting early apples had the conditions remained favorable. That is something which might have been beneficial for ripening before the worst of our summer heat and pests arrived.
Just my thoughts on what I’ve seen during this interesting season.
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Cat, I was writing my response before this one and left my room and posted it after all of this went down without seeing your response. I agree with Clark that Amadioranch is a very nice guy and generally a very positive force here.
There is a lot of bad history pertaining to the climate change topic here.
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It’s interesting you brought that up because I had a pear and a grape last year that both actually produced a second crop. The second crop pears were only as big as quarters but actually ripened up in December. The seedless concord in not seedless here but always produces two crops one which is small in the fall and one which is large in the summer.
I feel anxious about the early warming too. I watch the fruit flower buds every day. In my Southwest Washington State garden, I think we are at least a month ahead.
Swelling buds to show some pink - Toka, Hollywood, Methley plums. Sweet TreatPluerry flowers almost open.
Hyrid plums - slight swelling.
Most peach buds are fuzzy white.
Slight swelling - some sweet cherries.
Maxie hybrid pear - very swollen buds. Asian pears, slight swelling buds.
Most apples, Euro plums, Euro pears, pawpaws, tart cherries, mulberries - not even started.
Figs so far barely swelling.
Persimmon buds, slight swelling. Asians, but Americans, just tiny trees, not swelling yet.
If I had the energy, I might cover some trees with something reflective or white to slow their progress. I have some container trees I am kerping North of the house to slow them down.
One readon I like having a diversity of trees is hoping some do well in years that others dont.
John, I have the exact sitch here in Newport. Its pretty though, I cannot wait until it melts! I wanted to prune today. No way! Our snow on the trees is starting to drip!
I’m liking the forecast.I was worried about my Apple trees warming up too much.
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First post on a forum and you lob a grenade like that? I do apologize for being less than tactful (ive been at the hospital for the last two days due to my daughter) but please dont bring political stuff into what was a rational discussion. This is a great group of people here and id rather not see the fighting get started.
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Well, my early stone fruits are in bloom. Boom. Just like that. And, some of my lower chill pomes are starting to wake up as well. We’re in for a big heat wave this week, so I bet a whole bunch of stuff will start breaking bud.
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Well, it’s like spring, but a little off. I was wondering through Pooh quotes looking for the one where Pooh is looking for something, but he forgot what it was, but he was sure it was important … it being that kind of a feeling when the seasons have gotten all ascramble, and I came across this one, which is liked, too, so here it is:
“She turned to the sunlight
And shook her yellow head,
And whispered to her neighbor:
"Winter is dead.”
(A.A. Milne on daffodils and spring)
Also:
“Oh, help!’ said Pooh. ‘I’d better go back.’ ‘Oh, bother!’ said Pooh. ‘I shall have to go on.’ ‘I can’t do either!’ said Pooh. ‘Oh, help and bother!”
And there we are. We can’t go back, and we better not go on! Oh, help and bother!
:-)M
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This is the first blooming tree so far,a Dapple Supreme Pluot,even earlier than Flavor Supreme,but being in a pot might make the process quicker,while the other tree is in the ground.
I brought a small container growing Santa Rosa Plum into the greenhouse to force earlier bloom,so the Pluot will have some helper flowers.
The weather here doesn’t look too scary,but we still need to get through March. Brady
Brady:
Dapple Supreme is my new first to bloom tree. It used to be Tasty Rich aprium but DS is even earlier. It does have a large and extended bloom. It’s probably a good pollinator for the early stuff.