2026 Goumi

Upon further investigation, the whole plant is weird.

It’s a 4 year old Sweet Scarlet and gets the most sun out front of the 3 goumis, a full day. Almost every branch has at least some of these peach shaped berries. It also had the peach shaped ones last year, the half flat ones, and normal berries. This is the first year of the more complex defects.

I’ll plant a few seeds, but I’m more interested in rooting it, put a few in different locations, and see if the problem persists. I have a Red Gem (4 yo) and Carmine (3 yo) less than 20’ from each other, and planted last year the Sunrise Ruby, another Carmine, and a Raintree Select in the back yard. Only one bush looks like this.

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I had a booty shaped persimmon last year :wink:

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Do your deer bother these at all? My red gem is currently unprotected after moving it this winter, and I would obviously prefer to harvest it without moving a cage.

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@Faytowner … deer have never bothered my goumi.

One is located way out in my new orchard… and I see deer there regularly… but no mess with the goumi.

This is what my Red Gem looks like this evening.

Sooooo many berries.

TNHunter

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Don’t know what I have - was already here next to my persimmon, but it makes great jelly.

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I’m jealous the cedard waxwings have found mine this year and I am only getting a handful each day

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I finally got my first goumi this year, Tillamook, and I am trying to decide if it’s worth buying Raintree Select in a couple years when I’ve saved up the money (there are other plants I want to get first). I would really appreciate if you could post about their similarities and differences when both your Tillamook and Raintree Select ripen.

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@Noname and all… my RT was last to ripen but was only a couple days behind Carmine.

Red Gem ripens first, Carmine next then Raintree and Sweet Scarlet ripen about the same time.

I collected some of all 4 today .. check out pics below.

This is year 2 for my Raintree grafts and they did well on fruiting this year.

Raintree is at the top.. row 1.. and is very similar in size to Carmine which is row 2.

Red Gem is row 3 and Sweet Scarlet row 4.

While I had them all together.. I did a taste test.. eating 3 of each. Check out the pit size.

Raintree looks like it might be just a bit larger than Carmine. The pits also look larger in RT.

They taste very similar… on the tart side… and RT seemed just a bit tarter than Carmine.

Red Gem and Sweet Scarlet are both sweeter and have very similar flavor.. nice mix of sweet and tart.

Raintree and Carmie are both nice sized berries but for me they are a little too tart.

Red Gem is still my favorite taste wise and early ripening wise.

TNHunter

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Thank you for posting the ripening order and size comparison. In a frigid zone of Cedar-Apple rust, this is one of the few early fruit.

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Thank you very much for such a great comparison! It sounds like what I want is a Red Gem. It will be nice to have them ripen at two different times. How much earlier did Red Gem ripen than Carmine?

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Do the carmine and RT get sweeter with time or do they stay too tart for you to enjoy? Thanks for the great info!

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Planted my two Tilamook (Carmine) last year. One has flowers, the other none. Funny thing is the one that has just a little more shade has the flowers.

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@Noname … my Red Gem is 2-3 weeks earlier than Carmine… RT, SS.

I ate first RG berries on 4/18 this year.

@Adamsmasherz ..

I have had Carmine for a few years now and got first RT fruit this year.

Carmine over the past few years has started and remained more tart than my Red Gem. I don’t know for sure but expect that Raintree Select may do the same. RT does seem a bit more tart than Carmine but today was my first time to try them.

I will let you know if that changes.

TNHunter

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This is the Carmine goumi that I propigated by air layer a couple years back.

My Red Gem today…

This is a graft of Carmine that I added to my Sweet Scarlet a few years back.

TNHunter

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You guys are all showing off your gorgeous fruit; meanwhile, I’ve barely got blooms. Flowers opened very recently. Sorry the perspective is distorted.

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Red Gem seems to be the best tastings cultivar in my opinion, I bought two more, i got a Korean verity too, i disremember the name, i have high hopes, the OP have an amazing orchard of fruit bushes, enjoyed reading this post.

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I ate more of all 4 varieties yesterday.

Raintree and Carmine .. still tasting the same. Quite tart initially with a little sweetness.. nice goumi flavor. I would say they are around 70% tart, 30% sweet.

Red Gem and Sweet Scarlet have a good mix of tart and sweetness for fresh eating… more like 50/50… but they are smaller berries.

TNHunter

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Early morning walk through my small orchard with my coffee in hand. Goumi is about the earliest to ripen so the mockingbirds and I get an early morning snack. A few more days of snacking and it will be time to start thinking about the blueberries.

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@Auburn … My Climax rabbiteyes are starting to ripen now.

Got to get my bird protection on…. the birds are already taking or pecking to death the few blue ones.

TNHunter

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Getting pretty good production on my Carmine that’s in its third leaf. The berries look cool and are my earliest harvest of anything, seem unmolested by birds, like the way the bush grows, berry texture is good and kind of chewy-jelly…but damn are they tart. I actually like tart things thankfully. Are Carmines typically pretty tart regardless of how ripe they are? We’ve had quite cool temps with some rain recently and wondering if that’s keeping sugars down.

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