Has anyone tasted Sunrise Ruby goumi how large are the berries?
4 Likes
It’s wild that there are zero reports.
2 Likes
The first time I saw it was when burntridgenursery offered it in 2024. I know a few people were able order it (and not have the order cancelled) and received in 2025. Probably a lot of orders were placed and they ran out of stock. I’m excited to hear how they end up being this year because in my experience there are pretty good chances of goumi fruiting the year after planting. That being said, I wonder if Sunrise Ruby might be a situation where something currently known was given a marketable name. Regardless, if it is a large fruited one, I think it would be good news that the nurseries are offering it (even if it is a rebranded Wang Bo or Diagoumi).
3 Likes
For now it is in the unknown bin along with Baby Shipova and Journey Persimmon (the persimmon that everyone raves about but no one has eaten).
3 Likes
I have not noticed sunrise ruby…
Red and Ruby
Gem and Sunrise
I wonder if it might be a rebranding of Red Gem. I like my Red Gem.
I have a Journey hybrid persimmon… in year 3 now. 3 inches of growth now and no blossoms in sight. May have to wait another year. It might ripen late July in my southern heat… and I do hope the taste of vanilla is there.
TNHunter
1 Like
hm, maybe. red gem is russian and sunrise goumi is allegedly korean
1 Like
I have exactly one sunrise ruby flower this season. Assuming a late frost doesn’t zap it or a critter doesn’t grab the fruit, I’ll let you all know how it tastes.
5 Likes
I don’t think they rebranded it. They just officially named it. Whittman Farms had been selling it without a name and just referenced Tillamook, Oregon as the origin of the clone. It seems people just started calling it “Tillamook” before it was sold under that name.
7 Likes
Thank you for the additional context on Tillamook! I edited my previous post with that in mind. Regardless, I’ll definitely be interested in learning more about how Sunrise Ruby does.
2 Likes
I had one earlier this week. Here are two Sunrise Ruby goumis (with bird damage) next to a Carmine goumi. I have Sweet Scarlet, Red Gem, Carmine, Raintree Select, and Sunrise Ruby.
I just planted the last two this past winter, the others are 3-4 years old. Sunrise Ruby fruit is as big or slightly bigger than Camine, but it was the first to bloom for me (March 1st), Red Gem was right behind it. There’s maybe a week between them all starting to flower. Flower size seems to coincide with fruit size. Carmine and Sunrise Ruby have nearly the same sized flowers, with the Carmine having slightly shorter stems
5 Likes
Thank you for sharing your observations for Sunrise Ruby! Good to know that it is around the size of Carmine. How does the taste compare?
2 Likes
To be honest, I can’t tell much difference between them. Ripeness makes a much bigger difference to my pallet. The one Sunrise I beat the birds to was red for about 4 days. I just put a net over the last 5 or 6 berries to see if I can get them a little darker. I should have some more ripe Carmines and can compare the two. This is the opposite of my last pic, Carmine in my hand, Sunrise Ruby on the bush, taken today.
5 Likes
The side by sides are definitely helpful. This year I had a late freeze but my goumi plants are at the flowering stage, so I hope that I get some this year. If all goes well, I could get fruit from Sweet Scarlet, Red Gem, Carmine (Tillamook), and Wang Bo.
4 Likes
That looks smaller than I’m used to seeing for ‘Carmine’ (except when it’s over bearing). Usually they are more elongated.
2 Likes
I just pulled the last of my Sunrise Ruby. Ordered in 2024, it was about 6’ tall before the fruit came this spring. It had less than 10 fruits this year. That might explain the size, but here are some comparisons I did. I let the last 4 of the Sunrise Ruby hang red for about a week before measuring them today. The Carmine is loaded. Flower size was the average, but most were nearly identical on each variety.
Carmine
3 y/o
Bloom #4 (3/11)
Flower 15mm x 10mm
Fruit
1.99g (.72x.53”) 14 brix
1.75g (.70x.50”) 14 brix
2.03g (.71x.53”) 13 brix
1.82g (.65x53”) 13 brix
2.00g (.71x54”) 13 brix
2.14g (7.2x.53”) 12 brix
Sweet Scarlet
4 y/o
Bloom #3 (3/5)
Flower 12mm x 6mm
Fruit
.81g (.47x.45”) 21 brix
1.21g (.61x.51”) 14 brix
1.24g (.54x50”) 15 brix
1.04g (.50x.44”) 15 brix
1.26g (.55x.49”) 16 brix
1.29g (.51x.51”) 16 brix
Red Gem
4 y/o
Bloom #2 (3/1)
Flower 10mm x 5mm
Fruit
.81g (.41x.44”) 23 brix
1.14g (.49x48”) 15 brix
1.01g (.50x44”) 15 brix
.80g (.42x.42”) 18 brix
.94g (.48x.42”) 15 brix
1.13g (.47x.47”) 20 brix
Sunrise Ruby
First year
Bloom #1 (3/1)
Flower 18mm x 10mm
Fruit
2.24g (.71x.57”) 15.5 brix
2.53g (.80x.60”) 14 brix
2.24g (.68x.55”) 14 brix
3.01g (.77x.61”) 19 brix
3.39g (.84x.64”) 16 brix
2.25g (.69x.55”) 16 brix
3.17g (.85x.65”) 15 brix
Raintree Select
First year
Bloom #5 (3/11) (failed)
Flower
Fruit
Sunrise Ruby, Carmine, Sweet Scarlet, Red Gem
Sunrise Ruby on top, Carmine under it. Taken today.
5 Likes
This is great information! You make a good point that the limited fruit quantity might have skewed the metric for sunrise ruby, but it looks very promising. The weight and brix figures for all of them are cool to see. How are you squeezing the juice to get the brix?
3 Likes
I have an el cheapo refractometer. They were pretty juicy, so I just slit the fruit and dabbed it onto the lens, that seems to work better than trying to smear it.
3 Likes
Planted earlier this year I will let you all know
1 Like
Thanks for taking and sharing the data!
1 Like