I love avocados. Unfortunately ,I can’t grow them here. There is a close relative common to this area Can I graft onto it? A ll info say no. I tried . Has anything thing been done to solve this? Maybe some weird interstock?


In the tropics, avocados take 4-9 months from flower to ripe fruit. In Southern California they take 14-18 months. So even if you could grow them outdoors in your climate, the fruit would take 3+ years to ripen - and the quality would be less than the fruits available in your local area stores.

Jerry, what’s the common relative?


It is called red bay Persea bourbon.I have several in my yard. The tree can reach thirty feet with up to ten or twelve inch diameter. There are bigger. It is prone to wind damage. The leaves are aromatic, can be subbed for bay leaves. The twigs have a smell similar to black pepper The fruits are small 1/4 by1/2 inch.

You are right . With that ripening time. They’d be a real waste of effort.


Thanks, Jerry. I’m not familiar with that name. I have a young bay laurel, but it’s not native. I also have what is called ‘sweet bay’, which is deciduous. I don’t know if it’s the same as what grows there.

Thanks for satisfying my curiosity. For all I knew, you could have been talking about sassafras in the original question.

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I have a fertilizer customer who owns an estate home in Connecticut. There are two diagonal wings attached to the house which both have translucent ceilings. One contains an olympic size swimming pool. The other is a fruit tree garden with near-tropicals including citrus, avocados, and some rare fruits. There is also automated supplemental lighting (6500K fluorescent) for those cloudy days.

So, for people who buy cars like you and I buy candy bars, there is a way to grow them in your climate. :slightly_smiling:

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what this country needs are several tropical conservatories, open to the public for a nominal fee, and not just for tropical flowers/ornamentals, but tropical fruit trees–jackfruit, langsat, sapodillas, rambutan, pineapples, mangos, guavas, mangosteen ad libitum ad infinitum

if kanye cannot coax zuckerberg to invest a billion $ in his kanye ideas, maybe our *.org could petition him into building tropical conservatories nationwide.

will broaden the younger generations’ vocabularies and expand horizons. Who wouldn’t want to take selfies by an actual jackfruit tree? or a bevy of orchids and anthuriums?


Sounds like an entitlement to me.

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it depends on how one views learning, immersion, and exposure. Besides, entrance isn’t really free, even though nominal.
actually have intentions of doing the same exact thing someday, hopefully, to grant anybody interested a bit of ‘entitlement’

In terms of federally-sponsored places that fulfill your wish, there is the Tropical Agriculture Research Station in Mayaguez, Puerto Rico. I have obtained plants from them in the past, including species of Musa and Carissa. The admission price is a plane ticket:

For those who might be a bit more vacation minded and headed to Disneyworld in Orlando FL, there is the Fairchild Garden in Miami just an hour plane flight away. There you will find a remarkable collection of David’s plants and a number of resident experts including the world’s foremost expert on Mangos – perhaps the sole reason I am growing Valencia Pride here in Vista CA.

For latitudes north of those two, I think it is a bit much to ask U.S. taxpayers to support a tropical herbarium. There are some private ones though that are open to the public operated strangely enough in places like Wisconsin and Edmonton. :slight_smile:


San Diego Botanical Gardens

A depressing display of near-tropical fruiting plants under poor cultivation practices.