Do you think surround would help?
For scale? You want to use hort oil in the winter i believe. Not sure the treatment right now….
I think you could use a soft bristle tooth brush snd physically remove some.
Right now i plan to ignore it. 
But i might apply oil next spring to any that i don’t attempt to remove before that.
I did oil and copper in the spring
Carmine just produced for the first time for me in humid 8b. I found them good for fresh eating, but i don’t mind tart fruit. No diseases yet.
i have c.j , juliet, romeo and lutokowa rose s. cherry. they were disease free for 5 years, then brown rot and blossom end blight showed up one warm, humid summer. that was 3 years ago and even with sprays, i had to prune out alot of heavily infected wood to save the trees . even then , i still got decent crops but without fungicides id probably lose the trees. once it shows up, its not easy anymore. maybe in drier areas it isnt as much of a concern.
I don’t want to say numbers in regard to canned quarts of Carmine Jewel. It would sound like a tall tale. I have tired of pitting CJ. The seeds are small and I find too many in my pies when I think I’ve done a good job. I am going to see if I can use them for juicing and hope Juliet and Romeo are easier to pit. They are much slower to produce but I expect decent production in the next couple of weeks. I also bought a few of the new sour cherry shrubs
. I am in NW MT. Several Ag programs in the NW did trials and promoted them.
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they are all a pain to pit so i mostly juice them once thawed. if i want a pie, i thaw them then break them in half with my fingers to get to the pit. this way i can be sure none show up in my pie. i love the juice and it helps with both of our arthritis as well as being super good for you. i sweeten with a pinch of stevia but i can drink it strait. the wife not so much.
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The only bush type cherry I have is Jewel. The first couple years it was fantastic, but now we seldom get enough fruit for a batch of jam. The main reason for this is not controlling the high number of suckers. I decided the tree had switched to using it’s energy just for spreading far and wide so I spent one season removing any suckers I found, roots and all. It then came back and began blooming again, but despite blooming a lot it sets only a small fraction as fruit. All of this has coincided with several years of bad drought. These may be considered self pollinating, but they still need pollinators, and those have been noticeably lacking in early spring. Last year was the worst drought yet, and after flowering well this spring half the branches wilted and died. The good years at the start demonstrated That Jewel can be good, but I’m ready to pull out the one I have in the ground. Two trees I grew in pots from suckers, on the other hand, set fruit fairly well, so I’ll hang onto those. It’s much easier to control suckers that way.
I find that little flies, as well as an assortment of bees, will pollinate it. It’s definitely self fertile, the closest relative that’s anywhere nearby is chokecherry, and that doesn’t even flower at the same time.
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Have you tried giving it a healthy dose of fertilizer? I think they can be higher feeders
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The dead twig ends on Carmine Jewel do look a lot like fireblight but I’ve read it’s more likely bacterial canker on prunus. Either way, pruning back to clean wood and keeping cuts sealed seems to be the standard advice. Interested to hear if it spreads further or stays contained.
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i get blossom end blight bad on mine if i dont spray regularly. one year was so bad i had to prune out half the tree to save it. whole branches were dead and oozing sap. once you have it you never get rid of it. just control it
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Yes, I think the tiny insects have been the key in the years it was productive. It’s the earliest blooming tree in my yard, and if it’s a cold damp spring those small ones are not active. The droughts have been knocking back insects of all kinds, but they have been mostly worst from mid summer on.
Good idea.I have very shallow soil and this year most trees are showing die back. I’m guessing they lost roots as well as top growth. Once it’s back to regular rain I’ll give them to help get back some strength.
I’m in EC Saskatchewan, so likely a thousand plus miles and climate from OP.
We have Juliet in both bush and pruned to tree with single leader, d’artagnion, and crimson passion.
I can only contribute the following: They take a Loong time to produce and grow slowly. Juliet if properly ripened are really surprisingly good. A really nice fresh eating cherry. Frankly IMPO a stronger cherry flavour than lapin’s (ours survived long enough to get a taste and look forward to a good crop next year then winterkilled) The bush Juliet’s sucker like crazy.
d’artagnion are the least winter hardy of the three by far. The 2 surviving out of 10 flowered this year so we’ll see. Crimson passion survive here but not thrive here. (Note -50C is pretty much guaranteed here but also keep in mind we have deep snow).
Planted 4 Nankings (and some highbush cranberries) on the edge of the orchard to try keep birds from our stone fruit, planted last year covered in flowers this year, we’ll see.
Don’t know if that helps, lol.
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im in z4b and the romance series produced the 3rd. year and full production the 4th. magnets for brown rot and blossom end blight in wet years if not sprayed regularly. put in a black gold . supposed to be z4 hardy and self fruitful. we’ll see.
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Next time you are out there with your phone, could you snap a pic of your tree-trained Juliet? I never thought that would be possible to do with bushes cherries (not sure why not, since most bushes can be trained into a tree form), and it would help minimize hiding spaces for pests.
Wonder why it doesn’t sucker in tree form, given that the roots are the same?
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Tree Juliet’s, have 4 of them, note I did not grow these, came across them last summer at a tree auction:
Last spring seeded the orchard with white clover, best thing I ever did. No more hoeing/tilling, they choke out the weeds.
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Beautiful, thank you for the picture!
Regarding clover, you don’t find that it attracts rabbits? That’s one pest I have an abundance of in my suburban neighborhood. They do so much damage.
I’ve never heard of a tree auction, very cool.