Can California avert a citrus apocalypse?

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To my knowledge Jerry Brown has never made such a statement – although I believe he spent time as a missionary in Calcutta.

The text of the article sums it up very well.

I don’t see any way it will be prevented.

a citrus apocalypse? like a ragnorange?

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What is a ā€œragnorangeā€ ?

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I can assure you that Citrus Greening Disease is out of his grasp.

I can assure you that the concern for Greening Disease is way overblown!!! :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:. Just like how the end of bananas are way overblown!

There are many better tasting citruses than oranges! I am prepared for the HLB citrupocalypse!!!

A solution exists and I have proposed it already!

80% of Florida’s groves are dead. They now import fruits from Brazil to compensate.

All citrus are in the tribe are affected.

What you have proposed is an excuse to not treat your trees.

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@Richard you’re a typical victim of American Corporate brainwashing. My proposed solution has been proven by the USDA, but it isn’t something marketable by for profit corporations, you don’t have faith on it!

I treat my citrus trees. We plan to buy useless citrus tree orchards when they are fully infected by Greening Disease because they don’t believe in my technology. We are still preparing. And there’s plenty of time. UC Davis offered me $100,000 for the technology that I have developed for more than $300,000 and wanted me to transfer all IP rights to them, past, present and future and I know that $500M was allocated to fight this overblown overhyped disease. So I’d rather die keeping the secret with me. But I will be the last one in California not to get the Greening Disease.

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Ok I’m curious. Can you tell us a little about your solution?

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No I’m not.

It has been shown as a means of delay, not eradication.

What do you treat them with, how much, and how frequently?

That’s a very old marketing tactic.

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My impression from the progress summaries of the genetic engineering research that I have seen was that there are more grounds for optimism than the article suggested, at least for the commercial grower. Do you think that you have a good understanding of the state of that research; and, if you have you reached a different conclusion, I’d be interested in learning why.

Yes, we can beat it this way (and perhaps only this way) … but the timetable will produce enormous interum losses. The breeding cycle for Citrus is 10-12 years from invitro or seed – both rootstock and fruit stock. So at the soonest we could expect 40 years to replant existing orchards once viable CGD strains are developed. I won’t live to see it to fruition but I hope it works. It’s very hard for me to see the handiwork of my forefathers (Howard Frost, Frost & Frost Trucking) go down the tubes.

Apropos of both topics, research on precocious citrus rootstock research is mentioned here along with HLB research (ā€œIn a preliminary test, a juvenile grapefruit clone grafted to one of the CREC-engineered Carrizo rootstock lines flowered only in its second flushā€)

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From invitro that would be 3-4 years, from seed 2 years.

Further, maturity is an issue in the tribe: hence the careful research pioneered at UCR. Of course there are folks ready to sell ā€œsolutionsā€ to desperate orchardists.

Folks, a gentle reminder. Let’s keep this thread a little less personal and stick to facts please. The thread is at risk of being locked or deleted.

Your friendly staff,
Olpea :smiley:

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Good article and it a crisis we’re all to familiar with here in Florida…Obviously citrus is our largest cash crop, 66% of everything we produce in dollar value, so millions is pouring into reseasrch to solve the citrus greening problem…I did want to clear up some numbers. Since HLB was identified in '05, orange acreage and yield has decreased by 26% and 42%, respectively, so while the numbers aren’t good…we’re not quite at the 80% mark which would indeed be pretty catastrophic.

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I would be all for that, the article has little to do with the problem, It’s more of a rant. One of the worst articles I ever read. Too bad, it’s a serious problem and to use it as a platform for political views is about as low as one can get.Too bad as I would like to discuss this problem, but find it impossible in this context.

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