Can I get your opinon on credit card charges at an orchard

Can I get y’alls opinion. We get a large amount of credit card purchases at the orchard. It’s easy and convenient for customers to just pull out some plastic to pay for their fruit.

But, the charges cost me about 3% (what’s deducted from the credit card processor) from what the customer pays actually pays.

The approximate 3% fee I end up paying on each transaction ends up being a substantial amount of money over the season.

My credit card processor, now has software and new hardware which will automatically upcharge the customer using the credit card for the exact amount of the transaction cost. Different cards have different transaction costs, which run anywhere from about 2.7% to 3.2%. Anyway the software will automatically tack that on to the credit card so the customer pays the fee, instead of me.

I’d like to know if you were at an orchard, what would you think of this? Or if you could put yourself in one of your friends places, what do you think they would think of this. Would it irritate them? Would they shrug it off?

If I chose to move forward with this, I would put up a sign at the stand, so customers wouldn’t be surprised when they see the upcharge on their credit card bill. I’m not sure how I’d word the sign, if I do this, so if you have any suggestions there, please offer them.

Thanks.

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Around here, many businesses inform you that using a CC will add 3% to your bill/total. A good reason for always carrying some cash.

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Dear Olpea. A very good question. As for me I would not be bothered at all. For some others, however, they would consider it the cost of doing business. :blush:

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Mark,
Several businesses here tell customers the differences in pricing of cash and credit card payment. I just had my car fixed. The mechanic told me it was $400 for cash and $425 for credit card payment. I paid cash.

My hair salon offers the same arrangement. Cheaper with cash. Tell customers upfront. They will respond accordingly,

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Olpea I don’t have a problem paying it and usually tell small business ahead of time that they are welcome to add 3 percent. Adding the charge used to be illegal but almost every state has changes that and a quick search indicated that it is legal in Kansas except for on debit card transaction. There may also be a requirement to have a little sign by where payments are made that it is added. Some places post a price and give a 3 percent cash discount to get around it. I think that was done more before the laws changed to accommodate the modern world.

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It has become quite common here in Upstate NY for CC charges to be passed to the customer especially by small businesses, and I for one support that whole heartedly.

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Extremely normal in the past few years to have a cc price and a cash price

. Restaurant menus even have it on long island

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What people most want to know: Do you take tap-to-pay? Asking the real questions…

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I don’t think most people have a problem with a local business doing this, at least around here where it’s fairly common. Ideally, a business could offer a discount for cash transactions and charge the regular price for credit card purchases. Unfortunately, even though both approaches can result in the same effective pricing (for example, 97 cents for cash versus $1.00 for credit cards), offering a cash discount is often restricted or prohibited, while adding a surcharge for credit card transactions is often permitted.

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My wife and I ate in a small restaurant yesterday and at checkout they asked “Cash or Card?”. I knew they’d add a ~3% surcharge if I said card so I pulled out a $50 bill instead. The total was $19.10 and they didn’t even bother with the $0.10 part handing me back $31 cash.

So no we do not like paying extra and will usually opt to pay cash if that results in a lower bill. I also appreciate the offer to do so, knowing that when it’s not available the merchant fees are baked into the price. I’ll almost always choose to pay by card in that scenario…

And that’s coming from someone whose day job often involves helping merchants integrate websites and/or point-of-sale apps to take card payments :slight_smile:

Visa and Surcharges: https://usa.visa.com/content/dam/VCOM/global/support-legal/documents/merchant-surcharging-qa-for-web.pdf

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The people paying cash are subsidizing the CC Users. Add the CC fee to the purchase.

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My business just ate the fees as part of doing business. The fees can be written off on your taxes.

If that’s not your thing, just up the price 3%. It’s not that much and it’s not worth noting or dealing with two prices. Everyone knows prices on everything are going up and no one will even think about that small amount. If they spend $100 it’s only $3 more no matter how they pay.

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At smaller businesses in my area its fairly common for them to up charge the cc fee.

You could raise your price by 3% and then offer a 3% discount if paying cash.

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If you don’t already use them, I encourage you to investigate using payment apps like Venmo or Zelle. Venmo is the most popular around here. Many people 35 and younger seem to prefer these. There’s even one local business that only takes cash or Zelle, they’ve stopped accepting credit cards completely. As near as I can tell, the consumer and business protections from these services are not as good as traditional banks or credit cards, but the convenience of being able to transfer money to anyone without carrying cash seems to appeal to people, and unlike credit cards it is impossible to go into debt.

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I would say cash discounts ranging from 2.7% to 3%. Please feel free to use your credit card for your convenience. Fees may vary based on your credit card provider. Accept all types of legal payments including PayPal, bitcoin, chime, vendors etc. I would even take gold and silver.

https://kansasreflector.com/2026/04/13/kansas-legislature-creates-state-capital-gains-tax-exemption-for-investors-in-gold-silver/

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As kong as there is a cash discount I don’t see the issue

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I have seen it done both ways. Normally it is at the smaller businesses. I always try to do my business with smaller stores, local businesses, and mom and pop stores any way. Keeps them in business vs the bigger company stores that could care less if I shop there or not.

Anyway,

  1. The businesses put a sign up by the cash register saying if using a CC there will be a 3% added charge.

  2. The business will put a sign up stating they will give you a 3% discount if paying by cash.

  3. I like the idea of you using the software to add the different % fees.
    Making is easier for you is a WHOLE lot better Plus the customer knowing that ahead of time makes there less chance of conflicts between you and your customers.

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I like the idea of a 3% discount if paying by cash. I’m going to have to remember it.

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This

It’s been the norm everywhere I’ve traveled now to see the “3% charge when using card” notice so I just assume the price will be up a little more than what i expected. I think the only place I didn’t see that when it comes to small businesses is overseas.

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Thank you all for the comments!

I don’t believe there was a single comment indicating they would have a problem with the price difference between cash and card, as long as there was an option to pay cash.

There were some good points about offering a cash discount vs. up-charging for credit cards. For my business, the up-charge would work much better because the payment processor software would automatically calculate it and add it on.

The problem with me offering a 3% discount is that it gets into a lot of calculation and doesn’t really fit into our streamlined checkout.

It may seem kind of strange, if you aren’t used to it, but I we use a lot of “approximations” when we check out customers, for the sake of efficiency and goodwill.

For example, yesterday we were selling Upick tart cherries at $5 per lb. So when a customer comes up with their 1 or 2 gal. buckets (we have both) I pull the liners/bags out of their buckets put them on the scale. Lets say they had two bags of cherries they picked. I weigh each bag individually, one bag weighs 6.28 lbs. and the other bag weighs 5.53. I ignore the hundredths decimal, so that would add to 11.7 lbs. total. At $5 per lb. that would total $58.50 in cherries.

It’s easy enough math, you can just do it in your head (although if I have time I use a calculator because some customers can’t follow the math in their head, and I want them to feel comfortable I’m not ripping them off. They trust the total more if they see I’m using a calculator.)

I pay the sales tax, so there is no sales tax to figure on individual sales.

Not only is it very speedy that way, but it provides goodwill. What I mean is that new customers frequently will put their fruit on the scale and then watch the scale like a hawk, as if they expect me to overcharge them. I’ll generally ask them to read me the weight on the scale. They will call out something like 5.86 lbs. and I say something like, “We’ll round down 5.8 lbs. is that alright?”. Or, “We’ll call it 5.8 lbs. I ignore that hundredths decimal. This ain’t Walmart.”

Most of the time, I can visually see the customer relax. Sometimes they even smile. It reminds them they are not in a supermarket, but on a real farm with a real farmer. I train my help who sometimes help me work the stand to do the same thing. I don’t even use any change smaller than a quarter to give back change for cash sales.

So let’s say a customer is buying peaches or tomatoes (which we charged $3 per lb. for last season). Let’s say the scale showed 8.24 lbs. total, since they are the same price and can be weighed together. I round down to 8.2. The quick math is $24.60 total. I say, “We’ll call it $24.50. I don’t do any coins but quarters.”

Again it’s a goodwill thing, and it makes for a very speedy checkout if I have to do cash. Plus, it just fits my personality.

There are even cases, where if it’s really busy, and I am getting behind and have all my help picking, so I am running the stand by myself, I have customers start weighing their own fruits and just telling me what the scale says, since I have two scales. Then I calculate the dollar amount in my head and tell them what they owe me. Sort of a partial self-checkout I guess. But customers seem happy to do it, because they get checked out faster, and it shows I trust them with the weights.

Anyway that’s kind of the vibe I have at my stand. I try to keep it very down home and country like. No fancy registers. Even the pistol I wear on my hip, although not always visible, sort of reminds most folks they are in the country when they see it.

I hope that sort of explains why I have been concerned about up-charging people who use credit cards. If I put a sign up telling informing customers of the up-charge (and I wouldn’t do the up-charge without informing them) does that take away from the country like atmosphere I work to create?

And, since the the credit card processor only up-charges the customer for the exact fees their particular credit card charges, the up-charge isn’t even a flat fee. It’s anywhere from 2.7 to 3.2%. That further complicates things. I’m not even sure how to explain that on a sign because most people probably don’t even realize there are different transaction fees for different credit cards.

That’s a good point. I’ve had a few people ask if I do Venmo. I haven’t used them yet because so far, young people who come to the orchard either have a card, or have Apple pay, or Google pay. My portable terminal can accept either of those, as well as a card.

Since I already accept cash, check, card, and Apple/Google pay, I’ve been reluctant to add yet another form of payment, unless I start running into customers who don’t have one of the forms of payment mentioned above. But you are right to note that times are always changing.

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