Che growth Does it really sucker or is that just spread on the NET

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I know the net is a lot of copy , and paste so I see a lot of times things I do not agree with being repeated again, and again even if it’s is sort of true even noticed this thing in books as well half truths , or not very detailed when certain things have variables .

In the mulberry family Moraceae
Che or Maclura Tricuspidata

#1 So I ask Che from Seed does it sucker a lot.
#2 IF it suckers training it into a tree isn’t it something people do?
#3 Why Not ?
#4 people train trees, and prune a bunch to be bushes to grow short why is a che bush like form bad?

That was about growing
This is about harvest
#1b Can che fruit be shaken out of the tree like mulberries with a rope onto a tarp for easy harvest?

This is about taste
#1c has anyone ate unripe che fruit that didn’t ripen what is the flavor?
#2C what does Che fruit picked early taste like but dried ?
#3C do the acids make for a better flavor (like a little unripe mulberries do
#4 if A variety is flavorless Can it be boiled for a hour with water , and sugar added
would that juice taste good like Tejocote Mexican hawthorn?
#5 anyone made any wine with it or anyone have some to sell in a good amount?
#6 or made Jelly or Jam

about the species , and growing
#1 D anyone thought of growing a massive amount of seeds to see what they get ?(and graft over bad ones)?
#2 D anyone think these kind of look like invasive paper mulberry fruit wonder if they would cross (Broussonetia papyrifer)?
#3 D I am curious if anyone ever thought of crossing with a fig
#4 D or thought of trading pollen here?
#5 in France in a Botanical garden they say to have a Osage orange che Hybrid any one think of trying that?
(or de bunking it little is found on the net Only thing I can think of is writing them a letter , and mailing it (google translate)

Flora Of china
Che Maclura Tricuspidata
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242331085
Maclura
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=119276

I looked at a few other maclura Species
Maclura cochinchinensis
seeds sold out here
https://fairdinkumseeds.com/products-page/flowers-and-ornamentals/cockspur-thorn-maclura-cundrania-cochinchinensis-seeds/
Maclura tinctoria (is in Mexico edible )

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Oh I know there are chicagoland members here Turns out saved in my email
Something is mentioning Macludrania hybrida In Mortum Arboretum (I have a membership too)

Should check that out soon

(also have I never saw Japanese Mulberry – Morus australis)
A note Maclura (it is the new genus Used to be Cudrania Tricuspidata
a lot of times can find old information looking into the older genus name before being renamed .

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Che will send up suckers 30 feet away with massive thorns. Unless you have acreage with room to spare, I would suggest you never grow che on its own roots.

Unripe che has no flavor. Ripe che has very little flavor.

The apparent genetic variability of che in the US is very small. I am generally a big fan of growing fruit trees seeds to see what you can get, but it would be pointless to grow a lot of che seeds from US cultivars. I have tried every che variety I could acquire in the US. They all taste basically the same. Papaya Tee nursery in SoCal has a variety picked out by legendary fruit guru Paul Thomson. They claim it is the best in the US. It tastes like the rest of them.

The first time I went to China I was still very interested in che and asked my hosts at the Nanjing Botanical if they had any che trees. I wanted to try some of theirs. They laughed and said no. They could not figure out why anyone would want to eat it. Years later I understood their feelings about it.