Anyone have experience grafting apricots on pluots/plumcots? I have a bunch of pluots on citation and a Spring Satin on Myro and I would like to graft a bunch of different cots on them.
Spring Satin is plum x apricot so yes.
Here’s a few more pieces of information from my notes Ahmad:
Apricot ‘may be or may not be’ = 50/50 or better. Apricots are 100% compatible to Asian plum however 100% incompatible to American plum. Watch the union should grafts be successful for future incompatibility.
Apricots should accept most all pluots very well; Japanese plums; European plum (Most not compatible.) Pluots make great interstem combinations between the Apricot wood and European plum scions. (See chart)
Basically it’s American plum that provides the trouble. And remember to watch for swelled unions which tells you there’s trouble happening.
Dax
Thanks much Dax! The pluots I am thinking of using as understocks are Splash, Flavor Grenade and Emerald Drop. Do you know much about their ancestry? I guess the bottom line is that I will have to try and see, but if something was well known to be incompatible, I would not want to waste my time and scion on it. My plan is to graft each variety on two different trees, but I don’t have enough cot trees for the ten new varieties I plan to graft.
Apricots will grow well on Peach and Nectarine also. bb
I think Luther Burbank used some American plum in his breeding and Zaiger carried his torch and I don’t know if there’s information about what Floyd Zaiger used in his creations, but my guess is likely no more American plum, Ahmad.
I feel pretty confident about that.
I don’t even know or recall if Burbank was breeding pluots but surely someone will tell us.
Dax
I’ll do the grafting this April and will keep you posted.
Thanks man.
Dax
Burbank did a lot of work with Japanese Plums and so did Zaiger.
It was Burbank that called his Plumcots,about 50/50,Plum/Apricot,while Zaiger named his Pluots and may have trademarked that word.They are more Plum than Apricot.bb
Splash pluot parentage is:
seed parent: plum x ( apricot x plum).
Or Friar plum x ( red beaut plum seedling x apricot).
Pollen parent: (plum x apricot).
Or ( red beaut plum seedling x apricot).
Flavor Grenade pluot:
The present new variety of interspecific tree [((Plum×(PlumCot)×(PlumCot))]×[(Plum×PlumCot)] was developed by us in our experimental orchard located near Modesto, Calif., as a first generation cross between a selected seedling [field identification number 7HC244 (non-patented)] and Flavor Queen
(U.S. Plant Pat. No. 7,420). The maternal parent (7HC244) was selected for a future parent in our breeding program and originated as a seedling selection from a cross between Mariposa
Plum (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 111) with the selected plumcot [4G1180 (non-patented)] crossed with the plumcot seedling [42GA580 (non-patented)], both plumcots originated from open pollinated seed of Red Beaut
Plum (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 2,539).
Thanks for the information Ulises… F Grenade has a more complex parentage than Splash! Do you know if either of Friar and Red Beaut us an American plum?
Some time ago, I read through pluot patents and made this table that shows how much of apricot ancestry each pluot has. The maximum is 3/8 for Emerald Drop, Flavor King, and Geo Pride.
Dapple Dandy: Plum x plumcot. 1/4 apricot.
Emerald Drop: [Plum x (Plum x Apricot)] x (Plum x Apricot). 3/8 apricot.
Flavor Finale: Plum x (Plum x Apricot). 1/4 apricot.
Flavor King: (Plum x plumcot) x plumcot. 3/8 apricot
Flavor Queen: Plum x plumcot. 1/4 apricot.
Flavor Supreme: Plum x plumcot. 1/4 apricot.
Flavorich: (Plum x (Plum x Plumcot)). 1/8 apricot.
Geo Pride: (Plum x plumcot) x plumcot. 3/8 apricot.
Marcia’s Flavor: 1/4 apricot.
Stan,
How is Marcia’s Flavor taste like? Compare to FK? And others,?
Tony
I just got it last year, so didn’t taste it yet. Hopefully will have a couple fruits this summer.
They are Japanese plums.