Grafting Cots on Pluots?

Anyone have experience grafting apricots on pluots/plumcots? I have a bunch of pluots on citation and a Spring Satin on Myro and I would like to graft a bunch of different cots on them.

Spring Satin is plum x apricot so yes.

Here’s a few more pieces of information from my notes Ahmad:

Apricot ‘may be or may not be’ = 50/50 or better. Apricots are 100% compatible to Asian plum however 100% incompatible to American plum. Watch the union should grafts be successful for future incompatibility.

Apricots should accept most all pluots very well; Japanese plums; European plum (Most not compatible.) Pluots make great interstem combinations between the Apricot wood and European plum scions. (See chart)

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Basically it’s American plum that provides the trouble. And remember to watch for swelled unions which tells you there’s trouble happening.

Dax

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Thanks much Dax! The pluots I am thinking of using as understocks are Splash, Flavor Grenade and Emerald Drop. Do you know much about their ancestry? I guess the bottom line is that I will have to try and see, but if something was well known to be incompatible, I would not want to waste my time and scion on it. My plan is to graft each variety on two different trees, but I don’t have enough cot trees for the ten new varieties I plan to graft.

Apricots will grow well on Peach and Nectarine also. bb

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I think Luther Burbank used some American plum in his breeding and Zaiger carried his torch and I don’t know if there’s information about what Floyd Zaiger used in his creations, but my guess is likely no more American plum, Ahmad.

I feel pretty confident about that.

I don’t even know or recall if Burbank was breeding pluots but surely someone will tell us.

Dax

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I’ll do the grafting this April and will keep you posted.

Thanks man.

Dax

Burbank did a lot of work with Japanese Plums and so did Zaiger.
It was Burbank that called his Plumcots,about 50/50,Plum/Apricot,while Zaiger named his Pluots and may have trademarked that word.They are more Plum than Apricot.bb

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Splash pluot parentage is:
seed parent: plum x ( apricot x plum).
Or Friar plum x ( red beaut plum seedling x apricot).

Pollen parent: (plum x apricot).

Or ( red beaut plum seedling x apricot).

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Flavor Grenade pluot:

The present new variety of interspecific tree [((Plum×(PlumCot)×(PlumCot))]×[(Plum×PlumCot)] was developed by us in our experimental orchard located near Modesto, Calif., as a first generation cross between a selected seedling [field identification number 7HC244 (non-patented)] and Flavor Queen (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 7,420). The maternal parent (7HC244) was selected for a future parent in our breeding program and originated as a seedling selection from a cross between Mariposa Plum (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 111) with the selected plumcot [4G1180 (non-patented)] crossed with the plumcot seedling [42GA580 (non-patented)], both plumcots originated from open pollinated seed of Red Beaut Plum (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 2,539).

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Thanks for the information Ulises… F Grenade has a more complex parentage than Splash! Do you know if either of Friar and Red Beaut us an American plum?

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Some time ago, I read through pluot patents and made this table that shows how much of apricot ancestry each pluot has. The maximum is 3/8 for Emerald Drop, Flavor King, and Geo Pride.

Dapple Dandy: Plum x plumcot. 1/4 apricot.
Emerald Drop: [Plum x (Plum x Apricot)] x (Plum x Apricot). 3/8 apricot.
Flavor Finale: Plum x (Plum x Apricot). 1/4 apricot.
Flavor King: (Plum x plumcot) x plumcot. 3/8 apricot
Flavor Queen: Plum x plumcot. 1/4 apricot.
Flavor Supreme: Plum x plumcot. 1/4 apricot.
Flavorich: (Plum x (Plum x Plumcot)). 1/8 apricot.
Geo Pride: (Plum x plumcot) x plumcot. 3/8 apricot.
Marcia’s Flavor: 1/4 apricot.

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Stan,
How is Marcia’s Flavor taste like? Compare to FK? And others,?

Tony

I just got it last year, so didn’t taste it yet. Hopefully will have a couple fruits this summer.

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They are Japanese plums.

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