The weather is cool so I see no reason not to use it to my advantage while we have it. This is a BET rootstock and I love these trees! There is very few rootstocks that do better than callery and BET and the hybrids of the two types. Harbin are more difficult for me to work with. Sometimes harbin grow really slow here in Kansas so i really never know what to expect from them. It sounds really bad but it’s my opinion these BET are better to graft after they are considered a little to big. When i started this topic i thought the exact opposite at that the larger trees would be harder to graft. I’ve grafted lots of larger pears and these really were no different. After the first couple I was warmed up. In the future I’m going to wait on some of them until they are 7 or 8 feet or higher to top work them.
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Sorry if you’ve explained it elsewhere, but why do you cover the green vinyl tape with Parafilm all the way down? I can guess that maybe the lighter color might be a tiny bit cooler, and obviously it’s working for you, but I’m surprised it makes a significant difference.
That’s a good question parafilm is a wax tape which is waterproof. The purpose is giving the graft more time to heal. If I was bench grafting I would dip my scion and rootstocks in paraffin wax but for field grafts its the best thing to prevent my grafts from drying out. It doubles the chances of success. Garden tape is much stronger than parafilm and its there to hold the grafts in place while they callus over.
just whacked a 5in. m. alba and bark grafted 2 scions of illni everbearing on it. was no way to leave a nurse branch because i had to remove a bad crotch angle. think it will make it Clark?
I understand why you are covering the scion, but I was confused why you seemed to be covering over the green garden tape on the rootstock as well. Or am I misinterpreting this photo, and you are actually using two colors of vinyl garden tape on the rootstock and then the Parafilm on just the scion?
I would be interested in your thoughts comparing Parafilm on the scion versus coating the scion with Doc Farwell’s Heal and Seal. I topworked a dozen mature apples this year, and used the Doc Farwell’s for the first time. It was somewhat messy, but seemed to coat well.
Doc Farwells is good stuff and it’s an alternative way to do the same thing just like grafting wax or pruning sealer. If you look at this thread you can see I’m familiar with your method. Doc farewells or pruning seal becomes a question of heat. Any oil seeping into the graft before its callused can cause failure between the rootstock and scion. No graft is a guarantee this year so I’m taking the precautions I can. If needed tin foil hats for the grafts can be built if it goes to 100 degrees suddenly.
Top working Pears weather permitting
The thing worth noting is that garden tape does not seal in moisture like pruning seal, doc farewells, or parafilm. You might wonder why I’m not using grafting wax like normal. The reason I can’t use grafting wax this year is due to the weather. The weather has many times got to hot 90+ F all through grafting season that would liquify toilet wax ring or other soft waxes. Kansas early grafting is better but the temperature swings at my location make it extra challenging. I’m going to graft whatever I can this year whenever I can. The trick is trying to match your method with the weather. One method I really admire for cold or hot weather is a trick @Derby42 uses which is using silicone over the top of his grafts. No matter what the temperature cheap silicone applied with a caulking gun on a graft works like a charm. What is more economical than silicone? At the time it was $1 or $2 a tube and the type was the silicone you might use around your shower or to weather proof your house. There are many ways to get the job done!
Cleaning up an earlier graft i did on callery. Strip all those leaves off the rootstock or the graft will fail. The callery shoots will steal the nutrients away from my graft if allowed to so timing is very important. This may need to be done several times. The reason why I did not graft at ground level is because rabbits don’t like callery here at my location and fireblight won’t kill the roots if it killed the tree. This winter when rabbits are looking for food they will pass on wild pear and eat Elm or something they prefer more. If fireblight was really bad and killed my pear 10 or 15 years down the line I can cut off the scion and graft the stump only losing 2 years until it fruits again.
This type of graft the tape will stretch so if it’s not removed for a year until next season it will not hurt this graft or the tree. The shoot will grow up and the cleft graft is strong. I’m grafting for worse case scenario. The more we graft the better we get and strategy is the name of the game. Know your enemies!
Will a bird landing on the graft hurt it? Unlikely
Will a deer browsing kill my graft? Unlikely
Will a wind storm hurt my graft? Unlikely
Can rabbits girdle my tree? Unlikely
Time to start pruning and grafting the next row. Wish these trees always grew straight but they don’t do that.
Wish these trees always grew straight but they don’t do that.
I have one callery on my property with main trunk growing out at a 45 degree angle and a bunch of mature upright suckers growing out of the root. I’m guessing the tree was originally upright, and at some point (maybe after big rain), the tree developed a big lean.
Other wild calleries seedlings seem to be pretty straight and upright.
Straighten the trees up as best as I can as I go down the rows knowing there are some things I need to live with. There is a dog leg shape to one of them but it should grow out of that. Uploading: 20220602_205100.jpg…
It was nearly dark when I finished but this gives you an idea what the row looks like. You will need to zoom in its the trees from the photo above grafted over.
So…my neighbor got 3 Bartlett rootstocks, probably OHF something, growing to about 20’ Nice and disease free. Time to rework them. How essential is it to have a nurse limb? as I see many without…
There’s a south facing, low growing, slightly angled upwards limb, about 8" in diameter I want to cut and place 2 scions. I’m thinking 1 at 10 oclock and the other at 4:30, if you consider the cut face as a watch. Is there enough sap to keep both limbs if I train them away from each other? Such a vigorous branch, thinking about putting a variety to slow it down. Kngiant? Chojuro? Green Jade? Harrow?
In this case I’m not using nurse branches because these are babies and I’m removing 3/4 of the growth and these are pears. Nothing provokes a pear more than that to grow very fast. If I was leaving most of the pear branches intact and grafting those I would leave a nurse branch. Older pears I would leave a nurse branch they don’t have as much vigor as younger trees. Pears under 7 or 8 years old can be very vigorous. Harrow sweet or Harrow delight would be a great choice.
I use toilet bowl sealer wax. So far so good… and cheap
Bought about a dozen years ago for $1 each I still have half of them! No idea what toilet they were for I sorted by cheapest on Amazon and loaded up on cheap wax rings several years ago!
Making progress everyday. Sun comes up early and mornings are nice and cool now so there is no excuse not to be showing some results. 20220604_072520|690x920
Took these photos for the people who had not saw me use clay before. So why do it? I’m attempting to cool the grafts down and lock in the moisture so they can callus. Why not use wax? It’s the wrong time of the year to use grafting sealant or wax it does more harm than good.
These grafts on callery take off like crazy!
Big difference between now and 11 days ago.
Grafts typically take 3 weeks to take “For successful grafting to take place, the vascular cambium tissues of the stock and scion plants must be placed in contact with each other. Both tissues must be kept alive until the graft has “taken”, usually a period of a few weeks.”
What determines if grafts are successful?
" * Compatibility of scion and stock: Because grafting involves the joining of vascular tissues between the scion and rootstock, plants lacking vascular cambium, such as monocots, cannot normally be grafted. As a general rule, the closer two plants are genetically, the more likely the graft union will form. Genetically identical clones and intra-species plants have a high success rate for grafting. Grafting between species of the same genus is sometimes successful. Grafting has a low success rate when performed with plants in the same family but in different genera. And grafting between different families is rare.
Cambium alignment and pressure: The vascular cambium of the scion and stock should be tightly pressed together and oriented in the direction of normal growth. Proper alignment and pressure encourages the tissues to join quickly, allowing nutrients and water to transfer from the stockroot to the scion.: 466
Completed during appropriate stage of plant: The grafting is completed at a time when the scion and stock are capable of producing callus and other wound-response tissues. Generally, grafting is performed when the scion is dormant, as premature budding can drain the grafting site of moisture before the grafting union is properly established. Temperature greatly affects the physiological stage of plants. If the temperature is too warm, premature budding may result. Elsewise, high temperatures can slow or halt callus formation.
Proper care of graft site: After grafting, it is important to nurse the grafted plant back to health for a period of time. Various grafting tapes and waxes are used to protect the scion and stock from excessive water loss. Furthermore, depending on the type of graft, twine or string is used to add structural support to the grafting site. Sometimes it is necessary to prune the site, as the rootstock may produce shoots that inhibit the growth of the scion."
This shows a graft i made pushing growth but i want the graft to hold off before it greens up. Most people see those green leaves as a good thing but they really are not unless it’s been a few weeks.