How is your weather?


Floridians with Ice problems at 35 degrees. I know that if you’re not used to it then it can be a real problem. Our company lets you work from home if we get more than 2 ft of snow or it gets below absolute zero (-459 degrees). Just kidding… It sucks in NE Indiana. -13 yesterday morning.
There are many folks home today with frozen water pipes. We have ice on the “not main” roads that has been there for two weeks. Salt does not work at these temps so they switch to sand.

On my old truck that I drive the tires weren’t even round for about a mile or two. LOL.

Stay warm and be safe…


:yum: Sounds good to me. Made a raspberry Vacherin for dessert last night!


Looks like a big storm is on the way. I am not worried about the snow, I’m worried about the ice, rain and wind. Looks like another snow hurricane. My grocery store shelves were working on empty this evening, so had to buy water, as much guacamole as possible, and other basics! A madhouse. RI’ers take their storms very seriously. I hope it will melt soon! We have very low temps coming after the snow, Ice and rain. So, not good. The marine forecast is far worse that the land forecast. It’s the ice that hurts us, and our trees. Darn!


My inground fig trees are looking…



Do I have to worry about -20 temperatures before wind chill, or is that -20 with wind chill? I’m really worried about my trees this winter. They’re in a very open spot prone to heavy wind.


I live in Florida so my knowledge on the subject is limited, but my understanding is that it’s the cold wind that can do a lot of damage…I’m sure others with more experience will chime in,


Yesterday was much ado about nothing, it actually cleared up pretty nicely in the afternoon and got sunny. Then around 4 temps started dropping and last night we got pretty close to a hard freeze. This morning it was bitter…For the first time in recent memory the locks on my car doors were frozen up, but we’ll warm up to about 50 by this afternoon…I truly feel for some of you northerners who have to deal with this every year…


When you know it’s coming and you know it always has, you also know how to prepare.

A friend who lives close to the Ohio River was freaking out that the pipes might freeze in her house if it got below 0. Because it never had. Here, I shrug off 0 because we always get it and know the pipes will survive to at least -25

If it was to hit -50, I’d be the one freaking out because we’ve never had that and I wouldn’t know if I was prepared


Total whiteout conditions here in Newport. The ‘Bomb Cyclone’ is here now! Winds are picking up too. Pretty scary!


I’m with Jeremy in that I don’t know a lot about which is more damaging- cold ambient temps or cold wind chill. My guess is a colder air temp is worse but the wind can be pretty bad as well, as it acts like a dessicant. I found these articles on the Mich St site, which might help.

Others on here say that it’s not necessarily the very cold temps that are the issues, it’s the big swings of temps that can do a lot of damage. Like going from say, 40 down to -10 for a few days, then back up to 40 or higher. If the cold’s more constant, that’s better.

That’s just my opinion, though. Folks like @alan, @Olpea, and others have more hands-on experience with fruit trees and plants. So, I’d defer to them for questions like this.


its funny how the media gives crazy names to normal weather phenomena just to get ratings! its a big nor’easter that we’ve had many times in the past and not the end of times like the news is propagating. here in Maine its business as usual. my buddy on the coast, where it will be the worst, is smoking a deer roast on his deck right now! he’s a scallop fisherman. remember the polar vortex? last month was one of the coldest dec. ever in a lot of the country but you didn’t hear them calling it a polar vortex as its old news and wouldn’t get the coverage like it did before. it just makes me laugh when i see these younger ones freak out over this when i remember many times it was way worst in the past and was barely even mentioned in the news.


Wind chill ordinarily doesn’t affect fruit trees. If it did there would be dead trees all over the place. I’ve seen -30 to -40 wind chills in Amarillo Texas. That didn’t bother peach trees in the least. Same thing in many locations every yr and during this cold spell.

Now that can have an effect because it can affect several processes in the tree. Constant cold is much better than up and down as long as the constant cold isn’t too cold. In fact constant cold in the zero to 30F range increases the cold hardiness of fruit trees like peaches. At those temperatures the plants tissues increase in hardiness by about 1F per day until the plant reaches a maximum hardiness. Just one warming spell above freezing and the plant losses all the increase in hardiness. Water tied up in ice returns to water form. Drier tissues are hardier just like having more antifreeze in your radiator.


correct. and I don’t think we are (yet) in trouble in most parts of the Midwest. peach trees fail below -20. It has been and continues to be cold and windy for an extended period of time, but nowhere near the conditions of 4 years ago.


Wind chill has a very real affect on warm bodied animals because our bodies are stiff and dead at well above outside winter temperatures. Peach trees aren’t affected by 0F and 60mph wind because the peach is fine at 0F. The wind won’t cool it any colder than 0F no matter how fast it blows. My body would be very stiff and very dead at 70F much less 32 or zero. After a night at 0F and 60mph wind with no clothes on and I’d be dead. The peach I’m lying under would be, like what’s your issue?


I believe wind chill is not a factor for trees as far as cold goes, but I think a strong wind can be, insofar as it dessicates (removes water) from the tree.

That’s not a big deal if the tree can replace the water, but if not, lacking water is a big stressor to the tree, assuming it doesn’t get bad enough for it to die. A tree under stress can make it more vulnerable to other things.

This dessication effect can become exacerbated in the winter, because in many areas the winter is a drier season, so not as much moisture in the soil. Also, the processes in the plant are greatly slowed due to dormancy, so it’s theoretically possible the wind could be taking water out of the tree faster than its roots can replace it even if there is adequate soil moisture.

I’m not an expert, this is just what my gardening podcast said when they dealt with the topic. It made sense to me, so I figured I would pass it on.


It’s a snow-person relief! The Greeks were fond of this art form. Creative daughter, :slight_smile:


Cold thru Sat and then a nice warm up is in the cards next week…mildness returns… GFS hints at some 40Fs after mid month… No snow around these parts until late next week…maybe.


California bakes thru mid/late month…



I really don’t have much to add to the good articles you posted and your comments. I might add I’ve read that once temps get above freezing and trees de-harden (as Fruitnut mentioned) they harden back about 2 degrees F per day for every day they remain below freezing, until they reach maximum hardiness (as long as they are still in endodormancy).

As I recall most peaches are really only hardy to 0F (for fruit buds) at it’s minimum dormant hardiness. However, for each day below freezing, the tree will gain 2F more in hardiness until it reaches max. hardiness (i.e. after 5 days of constant below freezing the tree would be hardy to -10F).

I’m pulling this from memory, and of course there are other factors which affect hardiness, so that’s just a rule of thumb.


Over a foot of snow. Hope it slows down soon!