Hello all. I’m thinking about my persimmon options for very southern NH (Nashua). Meader is an obvious choice. I’m pretty sure Yates or Prok will work well, but I’m curious if anyone has experience with growing Rosseyenka or other hybrids in this or a similar climate. They should be plenty cold hardy, but I suspect the summers here might be on the cool side for sufficient ripening and sugar development.
The hybrids are likely to need more growing degree days/season length to ripen fruit than you get in NH…My Rosseyanka graft didn’t make it through the winters in my z4 location anyway. Meader, Prok, Yates are good bets, as are seedlings from those…
I harvested my Rosseyanka in the middle of November, here in zone 6b. I don’t know what that translates to in NH’s climate, but it is hardy enough that Jerry Lehman is also able to grow them in Terre Haute, IN. I don’t have Nikita’s Gift.
Hmm… November ripening might be pushing it for NH. We get cold earlier here than the PNW, and fewer gdd than similar hardiness zones in the Midwest. Fortunately, there’s some good info on persimmons and pawpaws out of southern Michigan, which is about as close a climate to southern New Hampshire as I’ve found. They definitely seem to favor Yates and a couple others. I’ve seen reference to trying out Rosseyenka there, but no results posted. I guess I should stick to the early virginiana varieties. Thanks for the info, everyone!
@tonyOmahaz5 Thanks for the suggestions. I’ll have to consider those. Do you know of anyone who’s tried them in New England or the Great Lakes region? I know you and I are both zone 5, but you get an earlier spring and more growing degree days than I do.
What I would do if i were in your climate is plant two earlier ripening americans like maybe Prok, Geneva Long, and Yates. Then in a few years i would experiment by grafting one limb of your tree to the earliest hybrids. I believe the earliest z5 hardy hybrids would be kasandra and maybe nb-02 and others may prove good but more testing is needed on some of the new hybrids like those from ukraine. (Rosseyanka is very late…)
A friend of my planted a Prok and a Yates 9 years ago. He is in zone 5b/6a. A Prok died shortly after. He did not know why.
Yates is now 15’ tall and 10’ wide. It has been productive and ripens from mid Oct on. Yates tastes good but fruit are on a small size. I just stopped by his home to collect the fruit. He is very generous.
Those are beautiful! Small size doesn’t bother me so long as the taste is good. I see you’re in central MA. North or South of Worcester? I’m in Nashua, so it wouldn’t be much of a stretch for what works for you and your friend to work for me here. I’m barely zone 5b (USDA maps put annual mean at -10.2 F), but I suspect I might be actually on the 6a side of the fence, since I’m in town and on a small hill.
I had a Ichi-Ki_Kei_Jiro fruiting here up until a few years ago. It took 5 years for it to fruit, it fruited for me 3 years and I lost it the next winter. Its been re-grafted over to a Nikita’s Gift and Its holding its own (though it is pretty buried between a poncirus and a Cudrania which is much larger)
No fruit yet, but maybe in a couple years…
Then again, I’m in a pretty sheltered area right by the water…
Oh, heck that’s basically next door. I’m definitely curious to see how your JT-2 turns out. I’d initially been thinking Rosseyenka for a hybrid, but after feedback here and further research, JT-02 is my top pick for a hybrid persimmon to try. Where did you find scionwood? I haven’t found any sources selling scions.