MULBERRIES what are you growing?!

I picked several Siam Jumbos from a young graft. They were surprisingly good with a nice tang and sweet mixture. Far superior to Worlds best which I thought they might be similar to.
I think this one is a keeper.

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There could be something to that. Overall this year, it’s been an average amount, but we did get a lot of rain a couple weeks ago just before they finished sizing up and starting to ripen. It would make sense that more rain combined with more than average fruit load = less flavor.

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i dont have any fruiting mulberries but this came up next to the garage. is it a mulberry?

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@kinghat
Sure looks like a juvenile White Mulberry to me! I’m a couple months it should be big enough to graft onto.

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its in a pretty bad spot. would you move it to pot now or protect it and let it grow in its spot and pot it up in the fall? i would imagine they are pretty bullet proof and could handle being potted. its literally in the corner of the house directly on the north side.

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If you’re going to move it, I’d move it now. Try to dig up as much of the roots as you can, but they’re pretty tough little dudes.

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I had three just like yours growing in bad spots around my house this year. They transplanted into pots great, no issues at all for me. Maybe keep it shaded for a week after transplanting.

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i think i found a few more :sweat_smile:

is it worth it to spend the time growing to fruit or just big enough to graft?

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Some could be male and not fruit at all. I’d recommend grafting over.

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For everyone growing white albas, I am going to graft over Honeydrops; fruit size too small, taste ok, fruiting season overlaps with many better whites like White Ivory, so nothing special other than it is at least z5 cold hardy and is OK

so many other whites/purples seem more interesting like St Mary, Buluklu, El Dorado, White Ivory, White Feather, Narechena; Isfahan, Sangue e latte, easter egg and paradise are ones I haven’t grown yet but even they seem better

it is the Moonglow pear of mulberries - not relevant, way too tiny fruit, less productive and fruits in a window where everything else is better but it is OK and cold hardy to z5; way too low on the list to keep given it does nothing special

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I have 2 wild or feral mulberry trees that I think are worth propagating for myself. I did 2 bud grafts, 2 air layers and a cutting yesterday of one. Best tasting one I have found until my named varieties start producing.

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I got another Pakistan because my big one gave me a few fruit that i really loved :sweat_smile: planning on planting it in ground soon. Must just not sure where… this year is its first year from bare root last year as a single stick. It’s dropped a lot of fruit but i think it was because of watering issues because since I’ve been soaking it almost every day, it stopped dropping fruit :melting_face: which tells me maybe it would be okay if i don’t plant it a foot above ground level since it seems to like constant moisture.

My new one went from 1ft to almost 3ft tall in the last 2 weeks that i got it. But it was hidden in the shade and the nursery didn’t even know they had it lol. I may pot it up since it’s so small and do the plant shuffle with it a few times.

I left my big one out in the cold in pots this year. It had a little bit of die back but not entirely to the trunk. I may wrap it this winter if I do end up sticking it in the ground this month.

Finally got a taste of Illinois everbearing thanks to @Tiirsys and I’m gonna treat my tree better from now on :rofl: my random grassy white is still alive even though I’ve mostly neglected it.

I’m actually quite shocked that most bugs have left my trees alone for the most part. The trees i saw in Colorado had berries full of strange bugs.

Have a bunch of shelli rooting again and tasted silk hope today as well.

I got all my of mulberry trees early last year so this is their first summer officially.

Sweet lavender has proven to be not as grassy as honey drops. I may turn honey drops into a frankentree if it wants to keep being grassy. Same with random white if random white is super grassy again this year.

Still have yet to taste Tehama but it’s somewhere around here lol.

Eventually i will graft dmor 9 onto something… I really want that one :face_with_spiral_eyes: has anyone ever tried airlayering this one? Don’t remember if I’ve read that or not.

My dwarf everbearing is alive but very slow in everything…

So far I’ve been happy with my mulberries overall.

Such a shame it took me over 35 years to try one :laughing:

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A few of my Carmen mulberries have ripened. Decent size to them. Just like the wild mulberries on the tree it’s grafted to, not much flavor or sweetness this year. Though, this one was sweeter than the others that ripened a few days ago, so there is hope.

I’m hopeful this cultivar does well. I like the idea of a mulberry that doesnt stain everything red, and that birds/critters won’t be as attracted to.

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I never had mulberry until I grew it myself!
Apparently take transplant pretty well, considering the tree you saw was bigger than that when my parent’s brought it from their house last fall!

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How 'bout “MULBERRIES what are you NOT growing”?

Much of my gardening is experimental – try a bunch of stuff, see what works.

For me, Illinois Everbearing is a great example of what worked. Vigor and productivity were great; flavor was awesome; harvest lasted from mid-June to mid-August. Sadly, my first tree was wrecked by a storm so I’m growing a replacement.

On the other hand, Gerardi is a bust. I worked pretty hard to grow three trees and protect them from birds and woodchucks. Vigor and productivity were good. But the flavor is consistently bland. Not sweet, not tart, not worth the work. I’ve given the trees enough opportunity to prove themselves. It ain’t happening.

So I’m taking out the three Gerardi’s as soon as the harvest, such as it is, is done. I’m not sure what I’ll put in the space. Maybe more of what I have already, such as a red raspberry. Maybe something different, such as some gooseberries.

Meanwhile, I’ve got other mulberries in the pipeline – Kokuso, Shangri-La, Silk Hope, Oscar. The experiment continues.

Update 8/15: The three Gerardi trees are gone. I’m gonna replace them with some red raspberries, maybe a late-season primocane such as Encore. My Polana and Caroline are 2/3 through the bearing season. I would like a variety for September / early October. Meanwhile, I’ve tasted my Illinois Everbearing with the explicit purpose of comparing to Gerardi. IE is WAY better than Gerardi as it grew here.

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I’m getting a decent harvest on my Pakistan this year. This bowl is the most I’ve ever brought in the house at once, but I may have eaten that many at the tree before. There a few of my first decent Silk Hope fruit at the bottom of the picture.

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Varieties I’m not impressed with(but haven’t yet removed), or am no longer growing:
I bought ‘Wellington’, 30 yrs ago, from a nursery whose name I don’t recall, and I’m not sure that they are still in existence. It is, and always has been, a ‘dog’ here. Crappy M.alba growth habit with lots of winter dieback, annually. Small berries with little flavor; I don’t bother to pick them, and the birds hardly bother with them. At this point, IDK if it was just mislabeled, or, if, being a newbie, the graft died off and all I have is whatever rootstock it was grafted onto. I see good reviews and enticing photos of fruit, so I’m inclined to think I don’t have the real deal.
‘Hicks Everbearing’… it’s historical, but it is eclipsed in productivity, berry size, and flavor by almost any random hybrid seedling I’ve encountered.
‘Kokuso’… I had it for 15 years or more… granted, it was not as a free-standing tree, just two low branches in a larger M.alba tree. Berry size was good. Flavor was ‘meh’ at best. The Kokuso grafts were in the way, so I removed those branches. Perhaps it would be worth another try as a free-standing tree, in the open.
‘Collier’ - I’ve had it on two or three separate occasions, but it never lasted long, and I was never impressed enough with the fruits to give it another try.
Several years back, in an attempt to appease my wife, who wanted M.nigra, I bought 3 from Lucille Whitman. ‘Noir de Spain’ and ‘King James’ did not survive the first winter. ‘Sicilian Black’… which she has subsequently re-identified as M.alba(which it is),is still alive, but produces very few berries… they are of good size, but never ripen past early ‘red’ stage before they fall off.

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I don’t know the name of these; they are small mulberries. I was told they are dwarf, but I thought they were a tree. This is what I have


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i dont think they liked being moved :joy:

north side of the house :man_shrugging:

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White Feather of the Royal Pigeon


Very sweet fruit. Almost as sweet as a white Pakistan. I’m expecting the fruit size to be larger once the tree has established.

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