Aargh! Against my advice.
Maybe they are doing better, I don’t know.
I ordered a couple of pecan trees from Ty Ty about 5 years ago, when I was new at this: an Amling and an Elliot.
Amling
Thick caliber, fair roots.
While digging the hole:
First leaf:
Second leaf:
Elliot
Even thicker caliber, but with scruddy roots.
While digging the hole:
First leaf:
Second leaf:
Both trees were top-killed by a late freeze in the spring of their third leaf. Notably, a Kanza that I got from Ison’s (planted at the same time) had no injury from the freeze.
In my opinion, the trees were not bad if they were actually the varieties that they were purported to be. That’s a big if, and they did not live long enough to produce nuts, so I am not sure. However, I suspect that the rootstock used was not a good rootstock for North Georgia (Ty Ty is in South Georgia). It pushed spring growth too soon, leading to the trees’ demise from a surprise late frost, which are common in North Georgia (and Tennessee as well, I would think).
Also, now that I know better, I would not buy such large pecan trees. Smaller is better – less mangling or bending of the taproot, and once they get established, the smaller ones catch up quickly.
Also, pecan trees are such a long-term investment (it will be many years before they begin to produce reliably, and they will get huge) that it is worth it to pay extra for a tree from a nursery that has a great reputation for accuracy with both the cultivar and the rootstock.
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I used to search for the cheapest trees, I no longer do that. I just buy from a handful of nurseries as I’d rather spend 2x on a tree that I am confident in the variety and rootstock/survival rate. He will learn one day, but he’s gotta take his lumps first. Maybe they will work out, and maybe they will even be pecan trees haha
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Truer words have never been written!
Ordering from these online discount nurseries is too risky. Fifteen years ago I ordered pecan trees from Willis. Have not done well with them. Nice looking yard trees though.
Nice roots on the bare root pecan in the first picture. I remember on a couple of the bare root trees I got from Willis was completely void of roots. Just bare sticks. I got them to live by babying them in pots for a year and then planting permanently.
I’ve got to fertilize the pecans this spring.
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The new owner came on here last year defending it saying he was going to fix it. After several words with me and others on the forum though, it didn’t sound like it to me. My concerns would be roots and if it’s the actual variety.
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If I can ever get the wife to agree; I’m ordering from Clough Pecan.
They are very well established and known here.
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Bottoms Nursery Concord GA.
Ison’s Nursery Brooks GA
Get refunds for TyTy trees if you can…if not donate them to nature somewhere.
Willis, TyTy and Fruit and Shrubs Depot are to be avoided by any one wanting true to name things.
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Is that standing water or water table level.
As I had similar here in the UK with some walnuts and sweet chestnuts. I put it down to root rot and the roots being asphyxiated. So the roots died. The next stage of death was the tops all started dying back
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Ty Ty has a presence on TikTok and look professional there.
Leaving comments warning people will end up in getting one’s self strikes on the app and Ty Ty just erases your comment after reporting it.
(Hopefully this shows up in searches for people considering buying from them)
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We purchased pecan trees at the https://www.texaspecannursery.com/ and the trees were great.
$50 bucks for a 5ft tree with great roots from a reputable nursery, you can’t argue with that.
Also, their prices on other trees were insane. Perdue pears bare root with a thick caliper were $13.50
If you are in Texas is 100% worth the visit. They specialize in pecans
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In my picture? That is water I poured into the hole to test drainage before digging channels to spread out the roots. It actually drains pretty fast here for being mostly clay. The actual water table is much deeper.
I am pretty confident that the problem with the Ty Ty pecans was southern-adapted rather than northern-adapted rootstock, not soil conditions. They woke up too early, and then a severe late cold snap a few years back froze the bark all around, killing the top. The roots survived to send up vigorous suckers, which wouldn’t happen if they’d been asphyxiated.
I have pecans from Ison’s and Rock Bridge Trees planted in the same area, and they have proper rootstocks for North Georgia and have been fine.
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UGA just recommends Curtis or local seedling for the North of Georgia. And Elliott and local seedling for Southern Georgia.
I’d bet 75% of the Pecan fields here are on seedling.
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When I planted my first pecan trees, I knew about pecan scab, but the importance of rootstock wasn’t even on my radar as a thing to be concerned about. I wish I had read what UGA had to say on the subject. Would have saved me hundreds of dollars in trees and several years of wasted time tending to trees that were destined to get zapped by a late freeze.
On the other hand, maybe it was a blessing in disguise. I now have trees whose provenance I am a lot more confident in.
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My Amling pecan from Tyty survived just long enough to expire its warranty, not that I’d bother trying to plant anything else from them. Too many bad experiences (3 cherries, 2 mayhaws, and 3 mulberries all either dead or fruitless). I too warn people not to buy from them.
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