I can feel their pain. I hope for these people that they can discuss planting sites at home with family and trustworthy tree-loving friends,
Methinks you are not picking up on my sarcasm and thus overreacting to it. We are not quite yet that far gone.
Reminds me of this video I saw last night where someone was grafting over old fruit trees in public spaces around Seattle, Washington with newer, higher-quality fruit trees.
Yes, in ā08 / ā09 I planted tart cherry, apricot and an apple tree. Deer shredded them and they all died. I planted actual seeds of small plants but did not get anything. Most were seeds of raspberries and squashes.
When I eventually get fruit on my pawpaws (KSU Chappell, Shenandoah, Tropical Treat, and Nyomiās Delicious) I hope to be able to offer seeds or get permission to plant them at various parks nearby, since they are native trees.
Hopefully they just moved it somewhere more neededā¦.like his back yard. ![]()
I tend to spit out serviceberry seeds in parks around my house, donāt think any have survived past seedlings though, and theres already a bunch of serviceberry trees planted in the parks so itās not really necessary either, but I would never mind more of my favorite trees so I continue doing it. Though I could probably get permission to actually plant or get more serviceberry trees planted in parks and along road sides which would probably be more effective
I had a funny conversation a few days ago about how technically any hybrids I produce are native (to my yard at least) so the county should plant them as part of their project to plant more native trees
I donāt think thatās very funny. Your hybrids are not native. Local perhaps, but not native. The word native does not mean local.
Them obviously not actually being native is what made it humorous
To you, perhaps. Mismarketing is a huge problem. Most of the aronias sold around here are actually intergenetic hybrids but are marketed in the native section. I give that as an example of systemic failure. Some hybrids are useful for preservation/conservation, but itās still not the same.
You gave me a good laugh. Love your humor ![]()
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It is a struggle to even grow fruit on my own land, let alone public land. All the fencing looks like a war zone.
thereās two groups here that keep track of public fruit/forage foods. if you plant and get a fruiting plant established you can add it to the map locally and people will go water it during heat waves, harvest from it, etc
my neighbor is really involved in āgreeningā the neighborhood and applies for every city free tree program (spocanopy, urban greening, and a few other) and will send me the lists asking which ones make food and how much light they need. she plants them on the side street devil strips in the neighborhood and will go carry buckets of water around every day
we have a lot of service berry, sugar maple, apple, and a few thornless honey locust, a cherry. all in the blocks here.
i live in the city in a kind of forgotten pocket neighborhood, we keep the property value low by all being loud or messy and lots of kids run around, once in a while the grumpy old fella shoots the ground at night to keep it āscaryā. itās mostly families and old veterans in the neighborhood really good culturally mixed spot. i guess 4 blocks in total like this.
that one neighbor sheās planted at least a dozen trees for us. if she puts one in front of your house you go water it and text her so she has to carry less water around.
also thereās a park with b-ball court and softball diamond and then green space- the green space used to be barberry and some kind of tall ugly grass things, Iāve given the younger couple living by there a bunch of apple seedlings to plant in and a few are doing good.
if theyāre spitters Iāll go graft them eventually. the neighborhood kids all hang out over there so itād be good to have apples for them to āstealā (feeling like you stole some apples is important to a kid i think)
one group is fallen fruit, thereās an app with maps but itās not always up to date. the other one is local homeless and residents keeping track of trees and places to forage and putting it on a shared map we have in a online drive link, itās just locals updating that one.
plus thereās second harvest, the gleaners. they sometimes discuss locations and places we could plant stuff that theyāve noticed is fallow or not maintained.
if your neighborhood is well maintained none of this would likely work but weāre a forgotten ābadā neighborhood so we can get away with it a lot easier.
i plant pumpkin starts all along the sidewalk everywhere i can get to around the block. sugar pie usually. they donāt need much water and people get some food. orach has basically become a neighborhood weed and everyone picks and eats it. it likes dry heat.
Iām always looking for more ideas what to plant where thereās dry heat and full sun, maybe compacted soil. daikon in a few spots.
so yeah i think itās a good idea to do it, and talk to your neighbors to coordinate so everyone is in on it, and take advantage of neglected spaces to do it in
I grew up about 4blocks east of freya on 6th. About 2 blocks from Sheridan elementary school. Sounds a lot like the neighborhood I grew up in. @resonanteye , love reading your posts about Spokane.
Iām up in lidgerwood/Nevada that area by the mall and hospital and car noise etc. i know most everyone in the block Iām on and across, then from the back and side i know about half the people on each street that way. but they all know each other too
i like the neighborhood a lot. Iāve lived very rural, Iāve lived in nyc and other big cities, Iāve lived in a cabin in the woods, on a goat farm, and even the suburbs
this small city feeling is really good for me. i like it best of all, with the exception of the cabin. i would have bought that place if they werenāt asking maniac money for it
I think you live close to @NuttingBumpus , if I remember when he mailed me some apple sticks.
yes he came by and saw the sad city plot and the baby trees! he brought me lamb abbey to graft.
I hate wine berries.
They are a major nuisance in upstate NY and many other areas. They take over forest edges along with invasive honeysuckles and multi flora roses.
They are on my property and I rip them out and they keep coming back.
Black raspberry does very well in the same habitats and is native. I have an accidental black raspberry patch that has formed a boundary hedge. And the berries are delicious,