I’ve read here (old thread) and elsewhere that people think there are two different types/varieties/cultivars/whatever of what is called Whitney crab.
I’m curious if this is a commonly held thought? If so, what are the reasons for believing there are two different kinds?
It’s my understanding that, yes, there are (at least) two selections out there that are passed off as ‘Whitney’ crab… one is the actual Whitney… the other is one that was evidently received - mislabeled - somewhere along the way and distributed as Whitney… but it’s not.
I’ve not grown either - but know a former nursery owner who’s grown both… but it’s been years since the last discussion I had with him - I don’t recall the differences he noted.
Thanks. Apparently it is not an issue of overwhelming concern.
Bringing this topic back up.
I have a Whitney crab from Stark Bros. It almost certainly is not the same as the Whitney crab that my dad planted when I was a kid. That tree produced sweet, crispy fruit in late Summer. The fruit dropped readily as they ripened, and if not eaten quickly they turned soft and mealy.
The tree I have from Stark Bros. still has fruit hanging now. The fruit are crisp, but not as sweet as those I ate back in the 70s/80s. I have some in the crisper that have been off the tree for several weeks and they are still crisp and juicy. That wouldn’t have happened with the fruit off the old Whitney tree.
I am now convinced that there are at least two varieties out there being called Whitney crab. The one I have I wouldn’t plant again. I am going to request a stick of Whitney from GRIN for next spring. I hope to find out that Whitney is the one I remember from my youth.
I have had two small limbs of Whitney grafted a few years and they finally fruited. There’s only two apples and they are a little smaller than a golf ball. Like to hear your opinion if they are actually Whitney or something else? Sorry about the low picture quality.
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Smaller than a golf ball would describe the “Whitney” I have now, but not the “Whitney” we had when I was a kid. I can’t really tell much from the pics, sorry.
I am beginning to wonder if the Whitney crab I got from Stark Bros. may actually be a Wickson. I could see how a labeling issue may arise with the two. The tree I have has a bunch of fruit right now, none have dropped. The Whitney crab I remember from my youth, the fruit would have been ripe and all on the ground by now.
My Whitney crab is running almost a month late this year. Usually they start ripening mid August. This year they still aren’t quite ready yet. My Chestnut crab is running neck and neck with the Whitney. Most years, the Whitneys have all dropped by the time the Chestnut crabs start to ripen.
I know a couple guys within an hour drive who have Whitneys. Both their fruit have been fully ripe for a few weeks at least. My tree labeled as a Whitney has never had fruit ripen in August or early September. It has always been late September or early October. It is clearly not the same variety of tree that my Dad planted when I was a kid. One or the other of those two isn’t a “Whitney”
A few pics of what I am now calling my “not Whitney crab”
Pic of the tree, not a great pic. There’s lots of fruit still hanging 
A handful of the fruit
I ate a couple. They were still mainly crispy, juicy, and flavorful. About equally sweet and tart, starting to show a bit of watercore
I let my Whitney Crab hang too long, they were really nice a week or two ago, now mealy and bland, even though some seeds appear immature still. First year producing for these 3 trees on M.106. Looks like I sourced scion from both Geneva and Maple Valley.
That’s what I remember of our Whitney in Illinois. It ripened late summer and went soft soon thereafter. I’ve always wondered if it really was Whitney. Since we had the same experience, it sounds that that was the 1960s Whitney.
That’s what I remember, also, from a mature tree I ate them from in the 60’s/70’s. Excellent around late July -then dropped and gone. Sweet tart and crisp.
Here’s a pic of some of my “not Whitney” crab fruit from today. Most are still hanging in the tree, deer have picked off the low hanging fruit. In prior years, many fruit would hang well into October/November. I tested brix on 3 of them. All were 17-18. They are better tasting to me this year. Less acidic and sweeter. If they weren’t so small, they’d be a really good component in sweet cider. I have no idea what this tree is, but it certainly isn’t the Whitney crab of my youth.
It’s August 6th in zone 7 and my Whitney is mealy, not tart and seeds medium brown. I’ll pick earlier next year but wondering if it is Whitney. Will remove if not better next year.
My Whitney trees are loaded this year Dennis, I’ll try to remember to post how they are. I’m loosing a lot of fruit to bird pecks this year, hope the Whitney’s escape that. It’s been unusually wet and humid this summer for us (I’m just north of Utica), same for you?
It has been very humid but less rain then last year. Birds have been pecking everything. My Whitney is small with about 8 apples so it was easy to cover with netting. Early spring was warm so most fruits are early. The few fruit on Trailman were good. Chestnut crab should be ripe in two weeks.
Picked the last few Whitney today, August 20. Very mealy with zero crispness. They ones picked August 6th were not much better. Next year I’ll pick late July next year if not better the tree will be removed.
My “not Whitney” crab from Stark Bros. is nowhere near ripe. Seeds are barely light brown
I checked on the Whitney’s when at the orchard today. Something absconded with every single one.
