Uncommon varieties of che,pawpaw and persimmon

I’m searching for as much information as possible about the origin of each variety like parentage, place of discovery (for wild selections) etc. Maybe someone could provide any useful information ?
a) che

  • Adam Barr
  • California Dreaming
  • Chinese
  • Chinese Best
  • Chul Ri very Nice fruit Mid-season
  • Darren Bender
  • David’s low bush
  • Early Ripening
  • Stevenson Average
  • Hwang Kum #1-4 Excellent fruit Large Mid season
  • Oregon Exotic’s
  • Turkey’s Best
    b) pawpaw (based on mostly on “Pawpaws: The Complete Growing and Marketing Guide”)
  • Adma’s Secret - Pennsylvania ?
  • Al Horn White/Horn’s White/Al Horn Whiteflesh - Al Horn Indiana, wild selection ?
  • Autumn Surprise - Russia ?
  • Catachin/Catochin - wild seedling from Virginia ?
  • Cawood - Hidden Springs Nyrsery wild seedling from Bristol Teneessee ?
  • Cherokee Ridge - Ron Powell ?
  • Cluster - same origin as Walter’s H. Childers ?
  • Cox’s - ?
  • Creek Ridge - Rob Powell ?
  • Cullman Late - Don Cullman Marysville Ohio ?
  • Danika - Yellow Springs Ohio ?
  • Early Surprise - Oriana Kruszewski Skokie Illinois ?
  • Estil/Estill - Louisiana Nursery Frankfort Kentucky ?
  • Ford Hunter - Pennsylvania ?
  • Franklin Valley Gold - Pike County Ohio ?
  • Fulbright’s Delight ?
  • Gainesville #1-2 - seedlings of ?? Mike Duke Gainesville Florida ?
  • Gene - Adams County Ohio ?
  • Golden Moon - <1990 Berea Collage Kentucky Peacful Heritage Nursery, seedling from wild trees ?
  • Georgia Co. - ?
  • Hale 1-5# - George Hale Indiana seedlings of NC-1 ?
  • Halvin Sidewinder - same as Halvin ?
  • Hardy Wonder - Oriana Kruszewski Skokie Illinois ?
  • Hayes - ?
  • Hoberg - ?
  • Hoot Owl - Athens Ohio ?
  • Hopi Ridge - Ron Powell Adams County Ohio ?
  • Jack Irvin #1 - ?
  • Jeremy’s Gold/G6-120 - wild seedling from Maryland ? Same study mentioned KSU Atwood as a wild seedlig even though it is OP x 2-10
  • Jonathan - H.R. Benson R&D Farm ?
  • Kings Gold #1-2 Ohio ?
  • La Fleur - ?
  • Lexington Bell - ?
  • Louisiana Native/La Native - Louisiana ?
  • M.Gordon - wild seedling Cranburry New Jersey ?
  • Mark Twain - ?
  • Mohican - ?
  • Nyomi’s Delicious - Berea Kentucy wild seedling planted as backyard tree ?
  • Pickle - ?
  • Prairie King #1-2 - Ken Neighbors Indiana ?
  • Rana - ?
  • Ruby Keenan - H.R. Benson R&D Farm ?
  • Rusterholz - ?
  • Sam Norris cultivars - ?
  • Sarah G - ?
  • Seneca Ridge - Ron Powell ?
  • Shawnee Trail - Dick Glaser Wilmington Ohio ?
  • Sochi-11 -<1995 Russia
  • Super Mario/NN10-35 - ?
  • Sweet Potato - seedling from Blandy
  • Vickey Russell - wild seedling from Ohio ?
  • Walter’s/Herb Childers - H. Childers ?
  • Whip Longsderf - Pennsylvania ?
  • White Owl - White Owl Nursery Illinois ?
  • Yuri’s Russian - Russia
    c) persimmon
  • Brace #1 and Brace#2 - D.Campton ?
  • Brittain’s Blue - <2014 Englands Orchad
  • Dean-VM - <2000 John Gordon ?
  • Dooly - <2008 ? synonym of Dollywood ?
  • England’s Red - ?
  • Etter/Fayette Etter - ?
  • Fav Fav - hybrid?
  • Griff - J.Lehman same as Griffith ?
  • Jenny’s Early - Claypool cross?
  • Jon’s Pride - cross ?
  • Keener - <2004 Eugene Ulrich Illinois , unrelated to Burbank ?
  • Lumpy #9 - ?
  • McCampbell - ?
  • NC-21/Super Sweet - Doug Campbell seedling of Early Golden ?
  • Pfiffer - <1997 Claypool ?
  • Raddle - <2008 Engalnd’s Nursery ?
  • Rocky River - ?
  • Slate - <2000 John Gordon ?
  • Smith’s Best - hybrid?

Ps. I will be also thankful for information about other uncommon cultivars :slight_smile:

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I have plenty of info on my blog about Che Oregon Exotics. This post summarizes all: Gardening : Oregon Exotics Che (Zhe) trees, foliage, fruit production, and processing.

I also have small trees of Chul-Ri, Huang-Kum #3 and #4. These haven’t fruited yet for me.

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I can only speak on the few of those pawpaws you mentioned. My golden moon tree produced for the first time last year(planted spring 2020). Fruit was unimpressive, but it was its first year producing. A good handful of these selections have been lost to time. Makes you wonder why.
There are a lot of newer and better tasting pawpaw cultivars out there.

KSU may have scion of some of those if you ask really nicely they might send you some.

Heres a picture of Golden moon(might end up topworking this tree if the fruit quality doesnt improve this fall)

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Kathy James at Nash Nurseries has told me that Fulbright’s Delight was named after Dennis Fulbright of MSU (but not “affiliated” with MSU) and that it’s late ripening (mid-to-late Oct in MI). I’m not sure if that means it’s a Nash release or something Dennis was doing on the side.

Super Mario was from Nash Nurseries as well. This was their description on it…
“Named after our great friend and lead grafter Mario. This tree is one of his
favorite trees selected from his orchard. It is a very large fruit with a very
sweet flavor and spiced aroma. It has proven to be unique with the fruit
gradually ripening throughout the harvest season. A truly super pawpaw!”

My golden moon died after a year and Blake didn’t offer it for very long on his site. I’m not sure if he phased it out or renamed it? Here’s his old description on it from archive.org.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210926011656/https://peacefulheritage.com/shop/pawpaw-trees/grafted-pawpaw-trees/golden-moon-pawpaw-tree-certified-organic/

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I suspect he phased it out in favor of better cultivars. Just kind of ok imo.
I’d love to see photos of Super Mario. It kind of surprised me when I spoke to someone at Nash last fall and they told me that all pawpaws pretty much taste the same….pretty disappointing to hear from them. Another thing I don’t understand is the lack of photos of these improved cultivars, it only takes a moment to take a picture.

Golden Moon



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