I was super excited about what @Blake at Peaceful Heritage might be offering with his Passiflora Incarnata plants since he seems active on here. I figured for $40 + $20 shipping they would be pretty impressive. These things barely have roots. Two are growing together in the same cell and won’t be able to be seperated. What a let down.
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Do they appear to be seedlings or TC’s?
I would think seedlings since two of them are growing together, but I’ve never had to deal with tissue cultures.
I’d ask for a refund.
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I was just emailed by them after I left a review with the above picture on Google. I asked for a replacement bundle. I’ll be back to review what I receive.
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Sweet Jesus…and I thought I had it bad with my $65 mail order twigs for trees that they sell me. I feel your pain.
I hate buying mail order because I get 10x larger trees for the same $ or less in person. I only buy mail order as a last resort.
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From the response, it sounds like what you received is kind of an average specimen for that batch. Perhaps someone accidentally listed them as available too early since they were not yet to their intended saleable size?
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I had the same issue with Gurney’s tomato plants. I paid $9 each for tomato plants. When they arrived they were tiny. Big disappointment. Lesson learned.
I sell tomato plants for $3 each in cell trays or $4.50 in a 4 inch cup (about 8 inches tall in the cup). This is for plants that are shipped meaning I have time and materials involved in packing and shipping. For local pickup, I charge $1 per plant in cell trays and $2 in 4 inch cups.
What does it actually cost to produce a 6 week old seedling tomato plant? This year, I calculated cost to produce at 27 cents per plant in a cell tray holding 48 plants. Caveat that seed of some varieties and hybrids can be up to $1 per seed so just the cost of soil mix, cell trays, and electricity for lights and heat mats is included in the 27 cents. By the time I include time plus packing materials and shipping the package, I’m up to about $1.75 per plant.
Compare this with 2002 when I could produce seedlings for 9 cents each.
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I find that is true with some, but not all mail order suppliers.
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I bought the same thing last year and it looked similar to yours
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Passiflora Incarnata grows wild here, some vines have got to be 15 foot long or more. They grow up trees, along fence rows, in the garden and where ever they remain undisturbed and can get sunlight. Some produce furits that are hollow, but others produce very nice sweet/tart juciy fruit. That is similar in taste to a aprocoit. So much so, that people around here call them wild aprocoits. I would set them out next to something they can climb, that gets good sunlight. give them some water and they most likely will take off. Beware though, they spread like crazy.
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I’ve bought multiple things from Peaceful Heritage. They’ve always been quality specimens. To me it looks like they did everything right after you left a bad review.
This forum can be a powerful thing. I don’t think it’s really fair to make a thread with that title before they have had a chance to make it right.
I’ve purchased multiple figs and a pomegranate from @Blake. Peaceful Heritage is a fantastic local nursery that provides great localized information and content on their products (many of which are hard to find).
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There’s nothing wrong with the title. This forum is a great resource that I’ve used for many years. I’d certainly appreciate something like this if I’m about to spend money online. I’m showing the process they go through to make sure their customer is happy. I’ll be back on here to show what it’s suppose to look like in case others are wanting to purchase the same thing.
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Whitewashing of reviews bothers me.
Guilting/shaming reviewers does too.
If someone has a legitimately bad experience, they are entitled to share it. Readers can determine if the review has merit or not.
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What your saying is your cost is very conservative in my opinion. Where you run into real money is when a greenhouse etc are involved. There are inexpensive ways to do things sometimes that are not scalable. I knew an old guy down the road i bought plants from for years. His method was simple enough. He had an old shed he removed the tin from the roof and front on. Stretched plastic over it. He then put a wood stove pipe out the back wall. He installed the wood stove and grew tomato plants in there. Some people make the pots out of rolled news paper. They cook the aged cow manure on that wood stove to kill the weed seeds. They save their tomato seeds year after year. They started up feb 1 and close down June 1. They had nothing in their plants but sweat equity. The old guy i knew had the best well in the county. That method is not scalable so he can never get bigger. He didnt want to get bigger. His wood was all free. He burned things like elm and driftwood you would never burn in your house. He used pallet wood sometimes. He chainsawed some fresh trees every year. Sometimes i got might tomatos in old Styrofoam coffee cops that were 500 for $2 at the dollar store in those days. Just poked a hole with a pencil in the bottom. Newspaper pots i think they wrapped in packing tape to make them last longer. Im not saying this to say you can save money i’m saying your time is valuable as well. Im saying they never charged for the real costs which is their time.
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Totally agree. I like the idea so others know what to expect if they buy something from that vendor. I’ve left a review good or bad of almost every on line nursery I’ve ever bought from. When I did others chimed in with their own good and bad reviews.
Would have been upset myself if I paid $60 for those tiny plants. But if you knew up front what size they were there would be nothing to complain about.
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Perhaps I should start buying my tomato plants from you. If you have a list of the varieties you have I would be interesting in seeing it.
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Many people have had good experiences with Peaceful Heritage. We all know they have a good reputation overall. I find honest reviews are important, and I was glad to see this post. If there is something a nursery that is normally good doesn’t do well i’m glad you pointed it out. I’m also glad you received the plants and they were alive. I wish everyone used photos since they are very helpful. You did a good job posting those to let us see what happened.
If a nursery does make a mistake, i think it is very important to give them an opportunity to fix it. I hope they make this right with you. The plants you received look good but as you say look small.
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It would be nice if online nurseries would state in their sales description the expected size range of the plants they are selling at shipment and/or include a representative picture of such along with the typical varietal picture. That way people know what to expect. I have no problem buying small plants online. Actually, for online purchases I prefer it, because shipping is so expensive these days, and large plants are way more expensive to ship. If I’m buying a plant online I’m buying it online because it’s a genotype/variety that isn’t locally available. It does annoy me however when something is priced at large plant prices, and turns out to actually be a very small plant. Large plants should generally cost more because the grower has more time invested in them. Smaller plants should cost less because they have a faster turn around time for the nursery. Nothing wrong with a small plant as long as people know what to expect and it’s priced accordingly.
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