No…you’re not reading it wrong Olpea…I was. Axel too had it right according to this chart. Problem is, that conflicts with what I read elsewhere. It also destroys the theory (maybe) of the more vigorous Asian scion outgrowing the rootstock.
So maybe the rootstock outgrows the scion? Is that possible?
That should make the connection stronger by my reasoning.
By my reasoning as well. Yet it seems our reasoning is letting us down for reasons which we do not seem to know at this point.
I’m not impressed by our sources of info and will believe my eyes and what I see from my own grafts. Agricultural research in general and fruit tree in particular is extremely unreliable because of all the variables and the usual researcher’s desire to over reach the significance of ones research. I don’t even have any access to the research that the claims being made are based on.
When you look at how the much more concentrated and highly funded research on human health issues tends to swing one way and another depending on the latest research and how quickly assumptions change you know with the stuff we are talking about you need to be skeptical.
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yeah…I hear you. It does at least have the look of legit stuff though.
Okay… Here we go…
Yesterday I grafted Mirabelle de Nancy (Prunus Domestica Syriaca) onto a purple-leaf cherry plum (Prunus Cerasifera), which I think is a Thundercloud. Cerasifera is thought to be an ancestral parent of Domestica, so I am hoping these are “wood compatible.” I also hope to graft other pollen-compatible Euro & mirabelle plums onto this tree.
Has anyone else here fooled around with multi-budding grafts onto Cerasifera plum trees like Thundercloud or Krauter Vesuvius in order to convert these largely ornamentals trees into fruit-bearing trees? Anyone have any succeses or failures to report on this front?
How can you tell it is purple leaf plum or purple leaf sand cherry? I have a purple leaf something growing in the yard which I don’t particularly care for , have very small pink flowers. I am wondering if I can graft something? into it.
I’m suddenly finding this idea exceedingly interesting. I think my year-long multi graft plum-wrestling issue and lack of a good site can be fixed with some grafting: the base subject being my mystery mislabel peach (which I think is Elberta at best, BoG at worst). Had an epiphany while floating in the pool. If its Elberta, one scaffold of that peach will stay.
So by a descending aging construct, the early peach death may be more of a failure at the chlorophyll level and/or downward transit of nutrients versus the root itself and the upward nutrient flow? Given the crazy rapid rate of peach canopy growth that could make sense to me, as the rapidity of cell turnover could be the herald of a system that - on some level - thus burns out early. Hmmmm. Utterly fascinating.
So I may try my hand at some practice grafting soon, just to mess around. And eventually put some plum on that tree; its perfectly sited with fabulous drainage, one of the best spots I have.
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When I bought my house 5 years agree there were several peach trees that were struggling to survive. I’ve grafted European plums to them and have enjoyed a couple of seasons of fruiting.
Raintree nursery sells multi-grafted European plum trees on peach seedling root stock.
Thanks Murky. I have reading to do on grafting. At least I’m comfortable with ‘procedures’ due to work.
What methods(s) did you use for grafting? Anything better than another in that plum ->peach combo?
I did bark grafts because my scions were pencil diameter or smaller and the under-stock had cut diameters of 1-3 inches.
I tend to graft later in the spring than other people I know in the area. If the scions are in good condition, take rates re near 100%, similar to apple and pear.
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Do you or anyone else know if I can graft European plums and peaches to my three plum trees (Aubrum, Producer, and Methley)?
I grafted a European plum onto a Methley plum tree this year and it is growing nicely. I don’t know how it will do long term.
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I’ve never done it. I’ve never mixed Japanese plums with anything but each other and St. Julian root stock.
I’d be surprised if the grafts didn’t take due to compatibility. The rest I think is what this thread is about.
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Thank you
Thanks
It is my understanding that plums will not accept peach grafts in general. There are exceptions with some of the plum roostocks, such as St. Julian, Citation, Krymsk 1 and Krymsk 86. There maybe some other exceptions, but I don’t know of any.
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More thanks, Murky.
I will have to watch for proper temps and not jump the gun when it retrogrades back to winter and isn’t warm enough. I guess I can try T-budding later in the year if I don’t get any takes the first time.
Thank you. Using compatible interstems might increase the options. Bill
I was pondering that same thing myself Bill.
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