I wonder why Krymsk 1 was chosen over a Lovell or Myrobalan?
I would guess size control, Its dwarf to semi dwarf depending on whose rating.
I have some Adera cuttings coming Where did you find a rooted plant. Do you know if they have more?
From this much searching on GF, reports are peach, plum, apricot, cherry all work with Adera. I think Dennis above has had some experience with it. Scroll up 22-23 days ago to DennisD.
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I had Adera on my mind and forgot to share my limited knowledge. Peach seldomly compatible with plum as rootstock you will use Adera interstem for peach and nectarine. If I remember correctly you could put peach, nectarine, and plum on Rootpac-R or Adera interstem on the plum to use as rootstock. Wish I could get some Rootpac 20 to give a try.
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You are the only other person here I’ve seen post as having Rootpac-R.
@Arbyhaze
I got my Rootpac-R from Sierra Gold Nursery in Northern California. Since they are a wholesale company, there was a 6 tree minimum and shipping across the country for me, so it cost me $300 for 6 trees.
They were grafted with a peach. I cut those off and grafted my desired varieties to them.
Rootpac-R is a Myrobalan hybrid, like Adara is.
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Thank you info. I have don that before and also have 2 plums ordered on Mustang rootstock for the same reason. planning to get 2 cherries on Newroot to get it going again. Glad to know i’m not the only one that buys a tree for the root.
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Yeah, maybe living in CA helps so I can visit in person, but I luckily didn’t have that experience.
I got 5 elberta on Rootpac-R from Sierra Gold as well, but in person I think you can get less than that. Picked those up same day, and ordered an Evercrisp apple (which they accidentally sold me), and a Tieton cherry tree to ship up to my place near the Oregon border. Compared to any retail nursery I’ve been to, they’re prices were quite reasonable, totaling at $158.07.
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This doesn’t line up with my own personal experiences grafting prunus varieties. In the past from what I’ve read it was very common for commercial plum growers to use peach as rootstock for plums.
I have successfully top worked plum, plumcot and pluot onto established peach, nectarine, and apricot trees without using interstems.
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Yes, I believe peach is a common rootstock for plum, but I’ve heard of some long-term compatibility issues when grafting peach onto plum. Plum is fine when grafted on top of peach, it just has a stronger trunk beneath. I heard the problem with grafting peach onto plum rootstock lies in the peach trunk on top outgrowing the weaker plum beneath.
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ment that to be peach on plum rootstock. Have also read that plum on peach has a shorter life. have not experienced that just researching reading.
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Does anyone have knowledge or experience relating to adara’s cold hardiness?
I have Adara in Northern Illinois, no problems.
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The Adara plum tree is a good intermediate for compatibility with cherry, but Monrepos is better, as it is even more vigorous.
The use of Adara or Monrepos on weak or moderately vigorous rootstocks is not recommended at all, because in a few years, weak rootstocks will produce a discrepancy in size. That is, the rootstock will have a size much smaller than the thickness of the Adara or Monrepos bridge.
That said, I’m going to show you the rootstock I use and how I graft.
Due to the presence in Spain of the beetle Capnodis tenebrionis, whose larvae burrow galleries in the wood into rootstocks from Prunus Avium or related species such as Prunus Mahaleb or Prunus cerasus, it is imperative to use rootstocks that are not palatable to this beetle (rootstocks from plum, almond, peach, and their hybridizations).
In my case, the rootstock that works best on my land is a hybrid of almond Garfí x peach Nemared, resulting in the rootstock GxN 15 Garnem.
It is very vigorous, drought-resistant, and highly resistant to high pH. It is a rootstock for almond, peach and nectarine, so it is necessary to use an intermediate graft of Adara or Monrepos plum to make it compatible with cherry.
The normal method would be to purchase the appropriate bare-root rootstock in winter, graft it in March using the whip-and-tongue technique with an Adara or Monrepos cutting, let it grow all year, and then in March of the following year, graft the cherry cutting onto the Adara or Monrepos plum tree using the whip-and-tongue method.
That would be the normal process, but I don’t do it that way.
I do it this way:
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I buy bare-root rootstock in winter and plant it in pots.
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I prepare the refrigerated cuttings of the cherry varieties and the Monrepos plum cuttings.
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In March, when signs of budding are seen on the rootstock, it’s the right time to start.
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I take the cuttings out of the refrigerator, and the process is as follows:
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I join the cherry cutting to the Monrepos plum cutting using the whip and tongue method and tape the graft tightly (I use electrical tape).
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I graft the assembled cuttings onto the Garnem GxN 15 rootstock, again using the whip and tongue method and also taping it with electrical tape.
That is, everything at once, and without waiting 
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If grafts using the whip and tongue system are performed precisely, the success rate is very, very, very high.
Some examples of cherry trees grafted in mid/late March.
- Sun Pop
- Tamara
- Catania
- Cerasina Final 12.1
- Balrine
- Babelle
- Selah
- Folfer
- Royal Dawn
- Areko
- Epik-16 ( SMS-16 )
- Glen Red ( Sequoia )
- Royal Hazel
This is the GxN 15 Garnem rootstock
These are just a few examples.
If you’d like to see more photos of cool varieties, let me know, and I’ll keep posting more, since I grafted a ton of excellent varieties this year.
Best regards
Jose
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Cool pictures. It looks like you grow a mix of something in the containers with the rootstocks/grafts? Is that something intentional?
Wow that is good. I have adara but would definitely love to have monrepos. I don’t think we have that in USA yet. Is it same with adara and is almost compatible too all?
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Hi John.
Both Adara and Monrepos are selections from the Mirabolan plum tree.
I have these two plum in my orchard and cherry trees grafted with puente of Adara and Monrepos , so my opinion is based on experience.
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In general, plum trees require a lot of irrigation, but Monrepos tolerates drought and ultra-hot summers much better than Adara (a point in favor of Monrepos).
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My soil is calcareous with a high pH. Adara sometimes needs to be irrigated with chelated nutritional deficiency corrector , because it doesn’t absorb some nutrients well in high pH soils, while Monrepos tolerates high pH soils perfectly (another point for Monrepos).
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The vigor should be similar, but in my field, Monrepos is much more vigorous (another point for Monrepos).
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Grafting compatibility with different cherry varieties: In this sense, both are tied, since all the varieties I have grafted (many more than you can imagine) are compatible with both plum trees (point for both).
Here I will make an observation that I consider interesting, since there is one variety that is a bit reluctant to be grafted. grafted onto these plum trees.
It’s not incompatible, but I’ve had many grafting failures on both plum trees with this variety:
- Radiance Pearl
Fortunately, I managed to graft it successfully this year, as it’s one of the best bicolor cherries in the world.
And since I’ve taken some photographs, I’m showing you more varieties grafted onto GxN 15 Garnem rootstock with a puente of Monrepos plum , and some cherry trees grafted directly onto Monrepos.
- Henriette
- Rocket
- Cerasina Final 13.1 ( ultra late cherry )
- N-57 Sansón ( Name comercial in Spain ) , is a Canadian varity and his real name is 13N-7-19 .
Never forget this cherry, it is one of the best varieties in the world (it is a little-known variety), its flavor, sweetness and texture are incredible, I have seen cherries of this variety over 40 mm, it is one of the largest cherries in the world.
- Grossa di Pistoia ( Traditional Italian variety )
- Tieton
- Radiance Pearl
https://www.wheretobuy.davewilson.com/product-information-commercial/product/radiance-pearl-cherry
- Royal Helen
https://www.dalival.com/cerises/royal-helen-en/
- Big Star
https://battistinivivai.com/en/products/Big-Star-cherry
- Cilegione ( traditional Italian variety )
- SMS-280 ( ultra early variety )
https://battistinivivai.com/en/products/SMS-280-cherry
Best regards
Jose
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Another advantage of Garnem and Adara for homegrowers is both are reasonably easy to propagate by greenwood cuttings.
Do you know if Garnem is compatible with apricot too?
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Yes, and I’d say Monrepos is easier to root than Adara.
No, Garnem is not compatible with apricots.
You can use an intermediate graft from Adara or Monrepos, which are compatible with many apricots, and you can also use an intermediate graft from peach tree.
Best regards
Jose
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Interesting, neither Monrepos nor Adara are widely used in germany. I wasnt able to source Monrepos yet but scored some Adara scions. I used those to start a motherplant for scions. That worked out ok. Garnem was even easier to root from cuttings in july.
I do like their versatility as a rootstock or interstem. Since the sandy soil in my orchard ist getting drier every year I plan to experiment with Garnem as a rootstock with Adara or Monrepos as an interstem when needed. I could try Adara as a rootstock. But from what I read Garnem may be better suited for dry soils.
Norman, if you have dry, well-draining soil, there’s nothing better in the world , than these two rootstocks:
- GF-677
- GxN 15 Garnem
And to make them compatible, Adara and Monrepos work well, but I have a special affection for Monrepos.
IMPORTANT:
- To avoid rejection, use Adara or Monrepos cuttings at least 30 centimeters long.
Regards
Jose
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