Something I just thought of. A while back there was a discussion of cherry rootstocks and their ability to handle hot soils. Z-Dwarf was put forward as a possibility for people in hot summer climates to help their sweet cherry trees handle the heat. I wonder if Adara, being P. cerasifera, would be useful on this front as well.
According to the research report, Montmorency is incompatible, and I don’t recognize the sour cherry cultivars said to be compatible (Ferracida, Negra de Serra, Reina Hortensia, Temprana de Sot). This would be an interesting project for anyone with a wide variety of sour cherry cultivars to test for us. (Hint, hint!)
Personally, I’d like to see if I can get something like Royal Rainier to take (just came off patent, looks like) because it would be nice to have a blond lower-but-not-little-chill cherry to complement my Lapins. RR is incompatible with Z-Dwarf.
Which is to say, I would be interested in cuttings to root (?) whenever you have some extra.
Dan,
On the Rootstock, did you pick it up at the Sac CRFG scion exchange about a month ago? I was doing the demo using this rootstock for cleft and chip budding. I believe Ray for the Sac group is growing out more. Wish I had seen this forum before I did the grafting demo, I used Montmorency scion wood !
Charles
@charlesmcc@JoeReal Hi Charles and welcome to the forum. I missed Adara at the CRFG exchange because until recently I was unaware that it was called Puente here in CA. Joe Real was kind enough to share some of his scions with me.
I have not visited the Sacramento exchange yet. Perhaps I’ll make a run up there next year. In the past I have gone to San Jose, Berkeley, and Santa Rosa.
@brittanyw@Vohd I’m trying to root some scions and I also have a few grafts in place now. If I am lucky I will have a bit of extra scion wood to share next spring. Otherwise I’ll be looking for more at the CRFG exchanges.
@brittanyw I have been unable to find Adara compatibility charts related to common North American stone fruit cultivars. Much of the documented research that I have seen was done primarily with European selections. Joe Real has used Adara interstems quite a bit on his 150-n-1 fruit salad tree so he may have a bit of compatibility data coming in as the scions mature. Maybe Joe would like to chime in here with what is working well with Adara.
One of my experiments this year involves a root sucker taken from an old myrobalan plum found growing behind my home. I dug out the root sucker last year and grew it in a pot over the summer.
In mid February I performed a simultaneous double graft on the plum whip consisting of an Adara interstem with Lapins sweet cherry on the top. The results appear promising. The Lapins is leafing out quite well at this time.
Here is a picture 11 days later of the double graft plant shown in the previous photo. The Lapins cherry appears to be quite vigorous. The little plum branch from the bottom of the rootstock has also begun growing but the cherry is faster.
I have a lousy peach that would be a good candidate for topworking also. I’d speculate that your odds are fairly good if you avoid the few cultivars that are known to be incompatible. As a general rule per the historical literature, plums are graft compatible to peach rootstock.
Two Lapins cherries that I grafted to Adara interstems this year are growing quite well. I’m having good success growing out Adara so I plan to add many more cherry cultivars next year.
With fall upon us now I am happy to report that the results for my experiments with Adara this year have been good. The Adara grafted on almond put on 6’-6" vertical growth measured from the top of the scion. The spread of the tree grew to six feet.
Regarding the tiny double grafted tree in the first photo of this thread, I planted it out in late spring. It grew to be exactly 5’-0" tall. Caliper is about 3/4" diameter at the plum trunk area and over 1" at the Lapins graft. Photos:
Any chance I can buy some of the Puente scion woods from you? I have a few plum and peach trees that I want to convert over to Cherries. Please let me know. I am in San Diego Area.
@brittanyw@Vohd@Dennis1 In case you still have interest, I have some sticks of Adara to share. Please send me a PM with contact info and how many sticks you need.
This is neat!
If you have a few extra I have some myro rootstocks and I need more sweet cherries. I would love to try this, and perhaps try to stool it for more future rootstocks. We are quite alkaline here so it sounds like it would be a good way to go.
I don’t think this website allow me to PM, yet. As I am still a new user. I can not find a the pm function on this website. This is my throwaway email account that you can contact me and I can provide my mailing address. Anhdinh@yahoo.com
All those who have interest in scions please send me a private message with all of your contact info and how many pieces that you need. Last year my cost was running about five to seven dollars per package which can be reimbursed through PayPal. I have enough scions for a few more people.
