I suspect you will have roots based on how you did it. I just think they’ll be really tender at this stage. If you can get it through a few months of additional growth, it should be pretty stable and ready to thrive.
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Hi TNHunter – please keep us updated on your Goumi air layer situation! The info you’ve provided is very helpful to me, as I’m planning to start an air layer on a Tillamook Goumi soon, and I for one am greatly hearted by your results thus far. Thanks!
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@Miyawaki … I have not planted the carmine goumi air layer yet… but noticed my goumies out in the orchard the buds were opening… can see some yellow on them.
I checked the air layer today (still in pot on my back porch) and the buds on it are breaking too.
Sure looks like success.
I may plant it out in the next couple weeks…
I will report back, with pictures, on what I see root wise when I take it out of the pot for planting.
Thanks
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@TNHunter Appreciate that update! Sounds like a lot of positive signs. Please do let us know what you see when you plant in a few weeks. I’d like to get more goumi in my yard, and it sounds like seeds are difficult to germinate. Plus, I’d like to ensure they’re true to type, without having to buy more expensive plants from the nurseries. Seems like air layering might just be the way to accomplish that.
I never grafted goumi, but I chopped mine in half when moving and both lived. It has made little offshoots that can easily be removed and started elsewhere.
Eleagnus x ebbingei, the evergreen one, has a fantastic aroma. It is truly the daphne of the autumn. It also has berries in the spring-April! What else has berries then?
John S
PDX OR
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@murky @JohannsGarden @Gkight …
This is what my carmen goumi air layer looks like now… lots of blossoms and leaves.
I separated it from the bush back in December.
It should be safe to go ahead and plant this out in the orchard now … right ?
Thanks
TNHunter
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I would still highly recommend waiting till it’s put on some more growth before disturbing the roots. It’s just not worth the risk. Newly rooted goumis can easily be killed by root disturbance. Also, for reference, even unrooted cuttings will readily push leaves and abundant flowers, so I wouldn’t take that as an indicator that the roots have hardened off enough to tolerate disturbance.
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I’m no authority and my only attempt at layering goumi showed no sign of roots after a year.
JohannsGarden’s advice sounds informed and rational to me.
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Thanks … I will give it some more time.
Thanks for the update @TNHunter! The goumi looks really good. However, I am emotionally invested in seeing you succeed, so I support waiting a bit longer to plant it 
Looking forward to the next update!
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Dormant hardwood cuttings worked well for me this year. I took them in January, removed from a bottom heat bed (sand, perlite, heating cable) in march, so like a 10 week period. Good callousing and some root formation. Some had very little callousing. I think 75% successful.
Grafting to autumn olive also looks like a great way to propagate them too. Im burying the graft union
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In my experience, some light rooting isn’t necessarily success. They’re still pretty vulnerable until their roots are well hardened off and not easily damaged. Once you get through summer, you’ll have a better idea of how many are going to make it.
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I’m doing a goumi shuffle with Sweet Scarlett. I yanked out my 9 year old goumi because it was crowding my most productive kaki. I have some dormant scion to put on my autumn olive that never bears.
Meanwhile, most of the roots are still in the ground, so if it suckers, it will probably sent them up.
The tree got some roots with it. So I cut off 90% of the top growth and left one thin trunk and then transplanted it into clay soil under a tall fir tree. I guess I’ll see how much it wants to live.
Worst time to do it, its in bloom and smelling divine.
Goumi on left, PCNA mixed kaki on the right:
Just kaki:
yanked, most of the roots left behind:
Cut the main trunk and others:
Transplanted and mostly done pruning:
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A question for those that have their goumi grafted to AO rootstock. Does the goumi on AO grow in the same habit or does it grow with more vigor?
The wild AO in my area gets lanky, grows in excess of 20 ft high, and suckers like crazy. Would those growth behaviors be carried by the goumi on AO?
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The suckering will always be with the rootstock, so as long as the roots are the same AO, you’ll have the same suckering trend. E.G. the suckers will remain A.O.
I only have a handful of successful grafts in growth stages, but so far my goumi stems are growing like goumi and the AO is all that is trying to climb the clouds.
I bought my Moniz already on some sort of AO, allegedly a yellow one with low tendancy to sucker. It has a more sprawling habit than any of my other Elaeagnus, but a pretty significant pruning after it was in ground sees more upright growth near the center of the bush.
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I’m having fun growing seedlings, the germ rate has got to be in the nineties
same for seaberry
I had several seedlings up 2-3 inches tall under my 2 goumi bushes yesterday.
I yanked them all.
My air layer prop is still looking good.
TNHunter
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You yanked and discarded the seedlings?
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