I have reds golds and blacks…
Most of the blacks get eaten while picking.
The reds and gold make it back home.
Only have a few blacks now or last season… will have several more next.
I think the summer crop is decent as you say but the primocane crop is not very good in my humble opinion. I crossed it with Jewel, and the plant is amazing. Primocane fruiting is a dominant gene so it shows up on the first cross. The primocane berries from this cross are excellent.
Ohio Treasure is also primocane fruiting. I have not grown it though. I’m going to experiment with trying to root last years primocanes off this new cross. Tip rooting only produces one plant per cane. So I’ll take cuttings and try to root.
Lynn’s Black is another cross I did. Berries are huge! Berries ripen quite late though. These are not ready, date of photo is 10-02-2019. The plant is doing great.
I want to see if I can root cuttings, if so plants will be available for postage.
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same here. frosts kill my fall crop before i get anything.
Yeah Lynn’s ripens vey late and the other cross which will be named “Sterling Black” , ripens earlier. Not pinching them results in less berries but early ripening. It’s tough in your zone. It’s tough enough in 6a. I grow Tayberry, wyeberry, and Marion, and without protection canes will die here. I just buried them in a mound of shredded leaves. Covered with burlap to stop desiccating winds and keep leaves in place. That has worked for me, but what a hassle!
I’m addicted to everything berry so I do it!
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Here in TN 7a our last spring frost is normally in the last 10-15 days of April. Occasionally later.
My red gold and blacks (harvested so far) ripen first crop ? May 25 to June 30.
In the fall… primocane crop ripens Sept to first hard frost.
Last year… that was Dec 3… we got our last raspberries and figs that day.
This year mid Nov.
My fall crop sort of trickles in… a little at a time… where my spring crop is very abundant for near a month… freeze and make a lot of paleo chia jam during the spring crop.
My preferred cultivars were difficult to obtain. They’re obscure and some may not be offered in the US nursery trade. I sought them out because I wanted superior fruit from something hardy in Fairbanks, Alaska. They’re all floricanes.
Yellow: Honey Queen, bred by Robert Erskine, Rocky Mountain House, Alberta. Super hardy and productive. Berries large, mild and sweet. Very thorny; foliage bright lime green.
Red: Anelma. Bred in Finland and released in 1959. Has arctic raspberry in its lineage. Berries large and the mildest and sweetest of all; most pleasant to eat out of hand. They’re not tart, but neither are they insipid, possessing a deep and rich raspberry flavor. I also have Heisa and Heija, which are similar “Nectar Raspberries” from Finland with arctic raspberry genetics. Only Heisa has fruited; flavor similar to Anelma but berries smaller (although more abundant). I had to obtain all these from the USDA germplasm repository as root cuttings.
Purple: Wyoming. Another acquisition from the germplasm repository, after a 20+ year search. It hasn’t been available there now for several years, so I was lucky to get it. It’s sold in Canada, but I’ve never seen marketed in the US. The plants are monsters, with big branching canes that can be 12+ feet long. Berries are small but abundant and excellent. The only purple I’ve compared it with is Royalty (which was marginal at best and eventually winterkilled), and even though they were half the size, they were far better tasting.
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I wonder if ‘Nelson’ blackberry from Fedco would grow there for you?
@krismoriah on the fedco site they say z4, maybe z3… for the Nelsons.
I know that earlier this year @steveb4 was reporting success and a large fruit set on his Nelsons… he is z3b/4a per his profile.
Per google…
Yikes - that is pretty extreme.
I have some Illini Hardy myself, but per Starks z4-8 for them.
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Nelson (and all other blackberries I’ve tried) weren’t hardy enough, even planted next to the house. Trying to find Stenulson.
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i really would like to hit you up for cuttings of those next spring. i have ohio treasure black raspberry thats supposed to be hardy to z3a but ive read they grew/ fruited in central Alberta. fruits 2xs a season on primocane and floricanes. smaller berries but plenty of them.
Forbidden fruit? You make us covet.
Contact me in spring and maybe we can arrange something. These should be more widely disseminated.
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i agree. ive only heard of these from you.
Pequot Lakes Black Raspberry may be up for consideration?
Jim Furth, the breeder of this new variety, has grown Pequot Lakes since 1990 in the extreme winters in Northern Minnesota. The fruits are deep black and good quality for farm markets and U-Pick. Medium to large fruits are easy to harvest with the majority of the fruits located on the terminal ends of the branches. Flavor of the fruits are excellent and well balanced with high sweetness and low acidity. Harvest will occur in the third week of July for a two week period. The plants are vigorous and will yield up to three pounds of fruit per season. Hardiness Zones 3-7
Ebony Hardy blackberry has shown to be the most cold hardy(Zone 2-3)
Lowden Black Raspberry- Zone 3
Balsor’s Hardy Blackberry - Balsors Hardy blackberries were developed in Nova Scotia, where they have been grown by the Balsor family for over a century.
HoneyberryUSA sells the pequot lakes blacks. ive only seen the others sold in Canada. do you know any sources in the states?
$2.15/plant if you order 10.
I think i read somewhere that hartmanns developed the Ohio Treasure… but they are out of stock on those.
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I’m going to echo the thoughts on Royalty. A vigorous plant, the leaves look really nice, and the berries are large and attarctive. But, the berries were relatively worthless. I dug it up and trashed it after 4 years of growing.
It surprises me people have trouble growing Anne. I cut it off at about 3-6" each fall. A very vigorous grower with canes that would be absolutely loaded each fall with large good tasting yellow to appricot colored berries. I wonder if maybe those that have trouble growing and/or wintering them are getting virus infected plants? I can’t remember which, but I got mine from either Raintree or Indiana berry. Most likely Raintree given the time frame of when I planted at that property. I ended-up not carrying Anne to my new house though as it was a SWD magnet; just like Caroline.
i use my royalty for jams and such. i freeze them and mix with my other reds and yellows. yes they arent that good fresh but are great processed. huge berries on productive plants. anne primocane crop is too late here and i only got a couple bowls of berries before frost zapped them. i have cascade gold which has nice big tasty berries on a floricane crop but isnt very productive. i may try fall gold next but i think ill grow them for a floricane crop as i think ill have the same issuses as anne.
my ohio treasures came from them. didnt know they carried the pequot lake ones though.
Pequot Lakes has also died out for me in Fairbanks a couple times. But I keep trying and have one now that’s made one winter. It’s a puny little thing though; Wyoming purple is magnitudes of order more vigorous.
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