I agree with that. Even longer for tree fruit. I gave Niwot 4 years. I think I got it in 2014 or 2015 and it died in 2019. I have had Niwot since its first release. Luckily I had made two crosses by 2019.
I didn’t find it to be anything special. Oh Black Mac thats Mac for Mackinaw. It’s a Michigan cultivar and very late ripening. Bristol is excellent, looking forward to growing out Pete’s seed.
I like the primocane black raspberries because they can be large and produce til the season ends…
Lynn’s black had three six foot canes six years ago.and produced its first crop. Still a beast today. Even tip rooting is impressive it produced 3 crowns with one tip root. I have no idea how? It stung though to give up primocane berries to tip root
Primocane berries (2019) one of three main branches.
Very cool photo. It’s not Rubus occidentalis (black raspberry) it’s another Rubus plant. Hundreds of species in the americas. So I have no clue which one?
This is a prime ark freedom plant I thought would give a good representation of what happens to the cane that had a primocane crop and now producing a floricane crop. The distal end flowered and had fruit in the fall and now the plant is flowering more proximal.
i tried several techniques and wasnt happy with most of them. Im rooting some now and will post results next month or so. If this works i probably wont tip root anymore.
It would be nice at some point to have a reliable timing and method of rooting cuttings for Rubus folks… the fig and mulberry guys have a nice network going… i think it would be great if Rubus could also have that same potential.
At first I did like it. But that was because I was unfamiliar with cultivated varieties. I spend decades foraging wilds and I was excited to see large fruit and larger quantities in one plant. It was quite vigorous at first. But after a couple years it refused to produce edible fruit. The fruit dried out before ripe. Probably my fault. It needed more water. It’s worth looking into for yourself. It does appear to be sensitive to viral infection.
I think I pulled it out or it died.
I too would like to find best practice for rooting. Good luck with it!!
Most domesticated blacks seem to die out in my yard. Not really an issue with reds, some though too don’t thrive here compared to others. The wild Ontario black was the only plant that produced and thrived year after year. I have since collected seed of six other wild blacks that seem to have potential in breeding.
I’m giving up on the domesticated cultivars. They all seem sensitive to viral infection. We need cultivars that are not killed by viral infections. That one can grow them for decades and decades. That is one of my goals in breeding.
Seedling blackberries from MN zone 3b seeds. I plan to breed these to Chester. I consider it zone 3 as it has hit -40. Small fruit but does have a long fruiting period like the local 3b wild red raspberries. Growing these in 5b for breeding.
Sometimes seed if not scarified takes forever to germinate so don’t give up on them if they fail to germinate this year. They could very well germinate next year. So don’t throw them out!!
It looks like you have them growing but if you do more and others could appear in this pot. Keep in mind you may have to wait.
Yes I added it in 2017. Still doing very well too. I count on it. But different locations may have different results.
Himbo Top has been in my garden since 2013 and has spread and thriving. So has Prelude. Prelude though can be tart. I use it for syrups which are amazing with prelude. Himbo is used for fresh eating. Still has the highest amount of production followed by Prelude. A friend has a patch which is 30 years old and thriving. I have been asking him for plants a few years now. I’ll get him to give me one eventually.
He has no clue what they are? They are great for fresh eating I have tried them numerous times.
I have a red raspberry that my great grandmother grew when grand coulee dam was being built. It is low production, and not particularly sour. Do you know what cultivars were commonly available then?
Cultivars come and go so quickly. One would need to look at old catalogs. All the cultivars today are fairly new. The oldest I know is Meeker which was developed in 1968.
Latham was the most popular red rasp during that time i think. Still is very popular today 100 years later.
Could have been several others that are lost to history… Chief was another big name cultivar back then and was used in breeding alot of modern cultivars…
But only Latham has stood the test of time as far as i know.
Nice pics. Your climate is ahead of me by a month or more.
If those plants are young and/or in smaller pots dont stress out if the berries are pretty small… Mine dont size up until the canes get some size to them and the roots are established… YMMV.
Im 3 years into my Loganberries and hopefully this will be the first year of normal sized berries…at least im hoping.
