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I meant to post this a while ago - the spindly first year Newberry canes I have this year made a small handful of berries. They were purple and tasted absolutely crazy, something like fig strawberry preserves… nothing like a blackberry at all. It was out of this world and I loved it. Looking forward to a more mature crown next year to see what it can do
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So an update on my late blackberries (triple crown and victory) - they are being swarmed and destroyed by Leaf Footed Bugs. And my early blackberries are all being ruined by stink bugs making the berries taste terrible
I’m pretty close to giving up on blackberries
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Yep… let the crown mature and get the canes up to size over a pencil and larger then you are in for a real treat.
Again the real magic happens to get these and other berries to ripen without any water. And with well draining mixes that dont hold much moisture. (i learned the hard way with the wicking tubs BS.).
I saw a post today of a person boasting about his blackberries and how ‘juicy’ they were going to be after all the rain…
IYKYK
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Siskiyou Left. Kotata Right.
They get bigger than this but its a good example of a common berry size.
Siskiyou- Flavor notes… sweet and tangy…with an afternote of a good gummy candy. Delicious! No U of Ark here. This is mildly thorny and trailing. Fantastic canes and lots of them. A battle in itself.
Kotata- finally she is fully mature… lets up the tangy a few notches above Siskiyou. Divine! Nice purple juice this year… i taste some raspberry in there along with a half loaded sour patch kid and some Marion. This is trailing and has vile thorns. She is a nasty one.
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Probably for the best for this grower.
Good for pics of large berries but not so much on taste.
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Columbia Giant (not mine)… ripe last week for this grower. (good to know its another early ripener).
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I’m still a little amazed and very impressed by the size!
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mine are just starting to flower.
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I have an open space in my blackberry bed for next year. I was thinking about Ponca. I have Triple Crown, Thornless Loganberry, and Prime-Ark Traveler in the bed so far. I have Tayberry in another location.
Is there a better variety for 6b that I don’t have?
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Hall’s Beauty interests me because it produces “double flowers” like Superlicious and nice size sweet berries.
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I have a single “Fall Gold” raspberry which is flowering on it’s floricane now. All other raspberries have new primocanes growing but it does not. Do they typically send up new growth from the crown (very) late? Or probably the more likely situation, does this likely mean it will be dead and gone next year?
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That is interesting. Do you know anything about the parentage? Is it a standard tetraploid blackberry? I have an interest in hobby breeding brambles.
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I’ve noticed my fall gold don’t like to spread. I’m actually planning on planting one of them by my house soon. Mine are finally starting to send up one/two new shoots as well
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Hall’s Beauty, I think it is a hexaploid (6x) as it has Marion and Lincon Logan in its background both of which are 6x. You may be able to cross it with a 2x thornless Raspberry to get a 4x hybrid. I am going to attempt this with some 6x Blackberry/Raspberry hybrids I produced by using Colchicine to double the chromosomes of a 4x Blackberry x 2x raspberry (3x) hybrid.
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I have Thornless Loganberry and Tayberry that I believe are both hexaploid. It would probably cross with them, if not the raspberry.
Any suggestions or comments about planting blackberries and raspberries on the same row?
Would this work?
I found an article here which has a lot of information about the variety and some good photos.
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I planted this Royalty Purple raspberry late last spring. It has grown vigorously and has lots of fruit this year. The first two berries have ripened, I think, so I picked them. Not sure exactly what color they should be when ripe. But those berries were huge! They were okay, but not very strongly flavored. We have had a lot of rain and clouds most of spring so that may have affected the size and taste.
The red raspberries are Mammoth Red, but they are not so mammoth compared to Royalty Purple. They had a decent flavor, though. I think I like blackberries a bit better than raspberries. Blackberries seem to have a sharper more sweet-tart flavor. Those Mammoth Reds are shooting up primocanes like crazy. The Royalty Purple is sending up lots of primocanes, too, but they are all close to the mother plant.
Royalty Purple, possibly picked too soon, but not sure:
Royalty Purple and Mammoth Red with key for comparison and a few leaves of lambs quarter to sauté for supper:
Sandra
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