Blackberries, Raspberries and Hybrids

Joan J planted in spring is ripening. Mild, sweet flavor. Nice for sure (especially the lack of thorns), but I like Caroline more as it packs a much bigger raspberry punch.

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What causes raspberries to form short/squat/small? Caroline’s are forming very small berries right next to the perfect shaped Joan j


:thinking: Maybe my niwot might actually be niwot and it may have just needed 3 years to form big enough roots to make primocane berries?
Primocane berries on a stark niwot that i thought might have been mislabeled due to 3 years no primocane berries but they’re starting this year.


Columbia giant from a small plant.

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Big berry! Almost looks like a mulberry.

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Bad year for raspberries. Any idea what’s going on here. They are irrigated…

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root rot. too much irrigating.

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Lol. Just saw this on the other thread and popped over here b/c of the fireblight discussion back at post 2499. I’m pretty sure mine did have fireblight. Maybe yours too?

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I call this one Mabel after my Grandmother. A wild selection growing on her property. Mabel passed in 1973.

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thats awesome that you grow something she grew. any chance i could trade for some cuttings of it? im only a half zone colder so they should do fine here.

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I can share or trade root cuttings come spring.

ok. thanks.

Geez, finally caught up with this thread, took like 3 hours of fast reading.

Dang, that a mighty fine looking berry! Can you give it a taste review? Possibly compared to something like Triple Crown or another similar berry as a standard? I love large berries, so Columbia Giant has long tempted me, but my problem is I’ve been on the fence about its flavor.

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I picked it not ripe so it was sour still. I gave it just about 2-3 days after turning but it may need more time than my older university of Arkansas ones.

I have a couple more going so I’ll try to wait as long as i can but there’s heavy animal pressure here and it feels like we all want to taste the new things together lol

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Somewhat related question, does anyone know what ploidy level Newberry has? It’s parentage is a confusing mix of diploids, tetraploids, hexaploids, and who knows what else. @Fusion_power @Favman @krismoriah @Richard any of y’all know?

For me, Columbia Giant has tasted the best when the berries just start to lose their shine, usually a day or two after they detach easily. Before that, they are a little tart but the flavor is still good.

A little hard to tell from this pic, but the two berries on the very bottom are what I aim for.

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Just tasted my first ever yellow raspberry, Anne. I planted it from its little pot the first or second week of June this spring and it just made a few berries. I really liked them. They were sweet and had a nice flavor. I am looking forward to lots more next year. There are still a few berries to ripen on the canes.
Sandra

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thats funny. they are just ripening here as well. with this dry heat they are delicious. got a handful of colombia stars as well.

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" what ploidy level Newberry has? "

Hi, Looking at its pedigree, I would say it is Hexaploid (6x).

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No knowledge, only speculation. There is a high probability it is tetraploid. Why? Because with the mix of parents, the likelihood is high that a diploid was crossed with a hexaploid which would give a tetraploid. If it is not tetraploid, next best choice is hexaploid.

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Pretty sure it is Hexaploid. One Parent is a 4x Raspberry x Austin thornless (8x) which gives a 6x plant. The other parent has Logan and Marion in its background, both 6x.

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