the hot, more pungent varieties make some strong powder. i made some from romanian red and georgia fire. you only need to use half the garlic thats asked for in a recipie unless you love hot garlic like i do and add it all. 
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Hey sorry to derail but what’s the technique for making garlic powder? Wouldn’t dehydrating still leave the oils behind? How can you powderize that?
I slice the cloves into about three pieces. Dehydrate for a day or so. I usually dry at about 90 degrees. Takes about two days. I like to dry slow. Then I put pieces in a coffee grinder dedicated to herbs only. Powdered them well. I also use a drying agent to keep powder dry. Otherwise it hardens on me. Mixing it with commercial garlic powder works too.
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How’s the aroma and flavor compare to the commercial stuff, any interesting differences?
It’s the best if you use hard neck garlic. Hard neck ground is used to compare all others.
Each cultivar is different though. As mentioned already. I like Rocambole hard necks or purple stripe. Both have strong aroma and flavor. They make excellent powder but so does any hard neck and many soft necks too. I threw away store bought powder years ago.
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My Blackberry 4x x Raspberry 2x Fertile 6x hybrid, produced by chromosome doubling the infertile 3x hybrid, is ripening fruit. see pic
There is some red colour from the raspberry genes but the flavour is all Blackberry. I will backcross this 6x hybrid with 2x raspberry genes. This will give me a tetraploid Blackberry x raspberry hybrid with 50% Blackberry and 50% Raspberry. This should give me something like a Tayberry or Loganberry.
The second year Primocanes are looking quite stout. I was hoping for some primocane flowers but nothing so far. It is still early in the season, so there is still hope.
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I am removing some ‘Shultz’ and ‘Hull’ along with many others during this holiday week. Not sure if ‘Shultz’ will show back up in the trade again so if someone wants to carry it on and share with others if there is a need/desire then its not going to be me.
I will also be digging some Kotata, and Siskiyou and probably some Illini Hardy and Phenomenal berry as well as Newberry.
None of these have any kind of patents that i know of… so it would be nice if someone brought these forward to Ebay/Etsy etc.
My journey is complete and i have enjoyed this bramble hobby very much… but i have many hundreds of fruit trees to tend and ‘hobby’ as well.
I do not have the time nor energy to do both.
I am on an almost 4 year journey with Silvan… with nothing to show but plants. It has been the hardest to get going and i was expecting a crop this coming year… but my new pups have torn them up well enough for that to not happen… which means possibly 2027 unless something happens again. Year 1 and 2 voles really did a number on the roots of them… year 3 the cold winter injured them… year 4 my pups…
Year 2 of Josephine- if so then i think i have the only one true to name that talks about it. This one will be easy to propagate… if only i can prove it out to be true.
By sharing i mean selling on all the above. $20-$30 per. Not as a financial gain but an ease in the letting go. (plus some of these crowns are very large and will be tough to dig as well as ship). Plus i did pay up on some of these to motivate the sellers to get them to me.
Looking for one person that wants to carry it on… instead of 10 different folk that probably will not bring them all forward and make available.
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If a thornless tayberry exists or if anyone has anything thornless and similar…
Please consider me 
@krismoriah any chance you have Buckingham berry?
If its anything like thornless boysen then for sure not… I dont have it nor do i want it. Regardless i think Brexit makes it impossible anyways.
With good not great gloves i think Tayberry is fairly easily managable.
I don’t understand? Can you elaborate?
Also are there any upgraded varieties of phenomenal berry or would you say there’s nothing like it and it has its own unfair flavor?
There is a thornless tayberry. It’s only in the UK
I found out shortly after i posted that lol. Was wondering if maybe anyone had an escapee 
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If Kris couldn’t find it I don’t like your chances
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Ah, so it has been searched
I do not wish to elaborate on brexit… its just that the things that they sell in the UK are not for us right now.
The ‘upgrade’ to Phenomenal which was Burbanks reply to Loganberry is Newberry.
There is no thorny Loganberry to be found here… so theres that.
Nor is there Youngberry here.
My original source of Phenomenal is a fellow by the name of Lance and he is now selling plants on Etsy
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1669997350/phenominal-berry-plants-2-per-order-bare
as well as jam
Phenomenal needs a solid Z7 or above to thrive.
Lance is from here in WV but moved to San Fran and an excellent resource for this plant as well as some yellow rasps that i never did figure out that were from the Burbank collection.
So buy from him and not me.
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This isnt my forum… and i am not in any way wanting to police what others do. Ponca patent expires in 2040.
I am getting ready to post in the ‘how to propagate Black Berries’ thread here shortly… however it is a non patented variety…
Up for debate if any one has a different view of this.
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Question-
Is propagation of a patented cultivar for personal use legal?
No.
Best answer- It is illegal to asexually propagate any patented plant without permission and authorization, even for an individual gardener for personal use.
Truth of the matter- as long as you dont feel the need to talk about it or share on social platforms for whatever reason then nobody is ever going to care one bit.
Other truths- there are people that police Ebay/Etsy/ FB and probably here and will report you. Will anything ever happen? probably not. Are you ok with probably?
Final thoughts- these things propagate on their own like crazy… nearly unstoppable in most cases. Voles cause more propagation then you will ever want… let alone the suckering and tip rooting. Or accidental disturbance of a root via shovel or implement.
Probably wisest to just share pics later on of the plants and berries and keep the propagation talk out of the public’s eye.
YMMV just my take on things.
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As an ip lawyer who is not offering legal advice: definateltly dont propagate via any sort of asexual reproduction any patented plants. This includes by cuttings or by tubers.
If its only protected by a plant patent, not a utility patent you can ysually use those plants as a parent for seeds and that is not typically protected. Will vary depending on the patent. Typically utility patents you cannot even use the pollen/ovum.
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I found a black raspberry while out hunting that was growing in a damp area near a seep, along the north edge of the woods. It probably likes the moisture in the heat, but it may also have some good root rot resistance! I dug up a crown and will see if it has berries worth the trouble.
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