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Not sure if this has been posted yet or not but it reads that Gurney’s will have the new varieties next year 
I can answer that - he told me a while back that Victory is floricane-fruiting only
I’ve had mine in the ground since around April and it’s making some pretty long canes that are trailing along the ground. I remember that @krismoriah said that in a year or two they should become fully erect
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Trailing to erect?
How? Why? 
is that normal?
Removed spent canes yesterday and trimmed all the canes that were tip rooting. This is what was left. Notice no lower laterals etc… i did not prune any. This cultivar wants to grow stout canes for some reason once it matures. The laterals that did form went straight up into the canopy…unlike some that grow left and right.
So year 3 and beyond they are like little fruit trees in a way. Fully erect and an explosion of growth from secondary laterals this coming spring.
This is of course if left alone to do as they please. With better tipping earlier they would not look exactly like this.
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Wow…
Guess I’ll stick with raspberries and just my ark thornless ones then 
i am too lazy and tired all the time to want to deal with anything trailing.
he literally just showed you a picture of them being erect lol
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they look so perfectly spaced! how do you keep them so perfect if they spread via underground runners?
or do they not spread underground?
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@krismoriah … those look similar to my illini… which I tip at 5 ft.
Except you have a lot more canes per crown than I do. I normally leave only 3 or 4 canes per crown.
Mine ar not as robust now days… but they are 22 years old.
TNHunter
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Yeah but they’re trailing erect 
with trellis
Yes you are right. My Illini canes are very thick and thorny this year… very similar looking to Victory.
Maybe dig up one this fall and trim the roots fairly well and let the roots re-establish? These crowns that i got were trimmed fairly well then during the fall and winter 2 yrs ago they established a new home… and are thriving. Im not sure if you have tried that yet but cant hurt anything.
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They are pretty well behaved. I had my doubts that they were some kind of mutation or offspring of triple crown or chester which both send up suckers. These dont and stay very close to the crown.
The primocanes have to fight for their lives to get up and thru the canopy… so they are extra strong and vigorous.
I have no issues with canes/foot… they are avid feeders… and roots are way and away from the crown into the walkways. So i have learned that feeding the walkways with leaves and woodchips and manures… and chop and dropping grass seems to be their happy place. I know some folks like to toss fertilizer near the crown but once they are established i think they get more nutrients from the feeder roots. Just my theory.
That spacing isnt right for this plant… even though it looks nice.
These plants could easily fill out a 10 foot spacing with ease and give enough berries to feed a family with just 2 plants. I have to prune canes about 5 times a year just to be able to walk thru… so its not ideal… and alot of energy is wasted i think.
Im learning as i go… i did think in the beginning that they were semi-erect but they are fully mature now and i can better understand them.
Something like a grape trellis with one plant and letting the canes get 20 or 30 feet like they want … which are easily managed i think would be an amazing sight and let the plant have its full potential.
All that i get done with it is keeping the lion tamed with my pruners.
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my Colombia star put out 6 new canes over the summer and flowered in early sept. theyre trying to ripen a doz berries but i think the frost will zap them before ripe. ifi can over winter them i should get a decent crop to taste next summer.
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I have them in a field with two strains of Himalayan blackberries and some wild finds that i found that were ultra hardy growing in a marsh area. I pulled them out of a row and i am over a year in pulling new starts out. I may never rid the row of them totally. Just a sliver of a root and they form a new plant. Not advisable to ‘tame’ them. They cannot be tamed.
I really enjoy them thank you!
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Hmm. Normal ripening time is mid- July/late July. If they are that confused you may have to try Columbia Sunrise…
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the flowering was on the canes from last summer. they were only about 2ft. long this spring. now about 8ft. hopefully the new canes that grew this summer fruit at the normal time next summer.
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Many people think i’m exagerating when i tell them they are called health berries for a reason. They were literally the healthy berries in the patch. They are highly aggressive.
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Raspberries are sweeter and taste better in lower elevation than higher elevation either that or they taste better with a more acidic soil
Used to wonder where you guys got the “sweet” from, from Anne raspberries but now i know. The water was essentially nonstop turning my potted soil alkaline in Colorado and we were higher in elevation so it’s one of those issues that makes raspberries very tart and not tasty.
I absolutely LOVE these now!
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that’s good to know, thanks for that info
I’ve tried two yellow rasps here in Texas for slightly over a year and they’ve done terribly, will probably toss them out during my next round of culling
the summer culled a ton of other raspberries for me, they just baked to death
literally none of my raspberries look as green, vibrant, and healthy as your photo there
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If you’re by Freeport/ lake Jackson area in Texas, your tap water is poison . If you’re around San Angelo or San Antonio, you have a ton of minerals in your water as well and it’s close to being considered poison too. My husband is from lake Jackson and when we went to visit, i did some research on the water cause it smelled so bad to me but it was normal to everyone else. Turns out Dow chemical dumps too much into the waterways there and no one is willing to speak up on it because they don’t want Dow Chemicals to move.
Also with high mineral content water as I’ve found out from Colorado, it turns your soil and potting soil alkaline. With that, you may need some soil acidifier from time to time even with your potted plants.
What varieties of yellow do you have? I might be interested in rehoming? But first, try the soil acidifier and regular watering first to see if it helps