Blackberries, Raspberries and Hybrids

YMMV but i received my plants Saturday as bare root. Enough roots to trim and make 50 plants easily. I got mine from GrowOrganic but as @Melon mentioned you can buy direct from the source for cheaper.

this is a direct link as the navigation is kind of deep.
https://innovativeorganicnursery.com/product-category/raspberries/

I think they are releasing some more things next year like blackberries etc…so high hopes for something new and exciting.

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How do you use roots to create more?

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All i need now is an erect growth type, primocane black raspberry

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Trim them now… let them chill and callus. In spring a root cutting will give you a new plant on every bramble except for Illini Hardy that i have seen.

Im doing that for Phenomenal and Wyeberry now… and a couple of others.

Niwot aka Sweet Repeat is my fave of these but YMMV.

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I have niwot from StarkBros but it looks to be trailing and not primocane… unless I’ve gotten the wrong thing

Any chance anyone has sweet giant starts to spare?

Also is Columbia star as good as kiowa and as big?

I’m looking to possibly add a giant floricane variety.

Is sweet giant as big as kiowa? Can sweet giant be a substitute for kiowa?


Great roots from innovative organics just came in.

But one looks like it has galls :thinking:

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Hi Kris,
Just wondering if you have started your berry pant nursery yet. If you have I need a list. How do you find these rare berry varieties?

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I think I am all the way out on that for now. I enjoy my hobby much more than i enjoy making it into a business. During this time of the year i dont mind offsetting my costs by providing things that people want to grow… but i also have no desire to promote things like on social medias or youtubes. Thats what it takes to get things going i think. Not to mention that the bulk of folks want to plant things in the spring and are worried to death about planting things in the Fall.

The same way that anyone else could if they wanted to. I turn each endeavor into a Cold Case File then i do my detective work until i solve it. Each fruit or niche has someone that does this i think… there are pawpaw, mulberry, persimmon, pear, apple, fig, plum and many other collectors/detectives…

Its going to take me a few years but i will have similar collections of Cherries, Plums, Pears, Persimmons, and to a lesser extent Peach and Nectarines of the most obscure cultivars. I already have that with Elderberries and Mulberries.

Some people collect coins, guns, knives, cars or stamps. I collect fruiting things.

Anyways to answer your question- feel free to PM me on anything u are wanting or curious about. If i have it i will do my best to get it for you… if i dont then i will do my best to point you in the right direction. Without others sharing with me in their various ways and methods i would not have anything myself.

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Is this a NZ variety? Such as ‘Riwaka’s Choice’
Boysenberry? Guess I should have tried their boysenberries too when I was over there; I was already far too caught up with their wonderful apricots.

yes.

Its been written about in various places but im not sure i have ever seen any pics or anything of anyone that has grown them.

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Glenco is rated zone 4. Anyone try it in zone 3b? I am in zone 5b but have property in 3b. Thinking about trying it there.

Does anyone have suggestions for raised beds for raspberries (black, red, yellow, & purple)? I am planning on putting a few in a 8x4x1.5 raised bed and hill the soil to give them about 2 feet of depth to grow in, and have a simple trellis system supporting them. Is this an appropriate size and shape for about 4 plants?

Also, would putting a root barrier on the bottom be advisable? I don’t mind going around with my grub hoe to get a few escapees every so often.

Your dimensions are fine.
Would the root barrier be impervious to water or would it allow some drainage?

I was planning on putting some corrugated roofing sheets below with some small holes for drainage. It would nearly double the cost, but it may save me endless headache if the raspberries try to take over like the poplars are.

Do you know how the sweetness of Crimson Treasure compares to Crimson Night? I thought Crimson Night this past growing season was sweet, not as flavorful as Caroline though.

Plant roots will find any hole or seam. For effective drainage, there would need to be many holes. With 2-foot soil depth, I would not use a root barrier for raspberries and like you said, grub…escapees.

My experience is from a 15 long 3 wide 1.5 deep raised bed with raspberries (Meeker) and no bottom barrier. In year 5, I had to grub 3 or 4 sprouts outside the bed. Starting from year 3, about the same.

3 to 4 a year sounds like nothing! It will be dependent on a lot of other factors (variety, moisture, etc.) but that’s manageable. It’s why I bought the hoe in the first place! Thank you so much for the advice!

Its claim to fame is high yielding… so probably more of a u-pick or pick for market kind of fruit. Its parent is Himbo Top. Also the redness…which most people like the brighter rasps like Heritage which it is trying to outcompete. It fruits alot longer than Heritage… which was also why some folks liked Josephine and Crimson Giant. So fruits from August into November… which is a long time.

Crimson Beauty is late… which isnt really desirable so it went to Gurneys.

With all that being said I think Cascade Harvest is the one to grow for reds as of now… not sure about the new Ruby one yet.

I am on the waiting list for Addison which was bred by the same guy who made Caroline and the real Josephine… (i emailed hartmanns and they are willing to sell me i think 10 of them…but im hoping to go in with some folks and get them as i dont want 10).

I am also willing to pay for 3 if someone wants to buy from Hartmanns

Waiting list for it-

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Dammit. I forgot to pick up a finnberry when i was down there.

How much does 10 plants cost? I’m willing to pay in for 2 possibly

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