Camellia sinensis tea plants

@dannytoro1
C. sinensis ‘Sochi’ was selected from domesticated or feral plants in the greater Sochi area. The political jurisdiction at the time of selection is unclear. The cultivar has been widely distributed, so importation to the U.S. from other countries is not surprising.

‘Sochi’ has been described by some authors and sellers as an “Assam” variety. Others dispute this, believing there is also var. sinensis somewhere in its ancestry. At present the scientific community does not have tools to resolve this dispute from DNA – even though some misinformed investigators believe otherwise. I’d be surprised if such tools become available in this decade.

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I love tea and can’t have caffeine either. Mint and lemongrass are my favorite substitutes

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If you like the flavor of black tea, but want to avoid caffeine, I suspect you’d really like Siberian tea (чигирский чай) made from the desiccated leaves of Bergenia crassifolia (syn. B. cordifolia) which is a very common landscape plant in the US. I actually really love it and can’t wait for my plantings to become established enough for larger harvests.

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Reminds me of ivan chai, though they probably taste pretty different. It’s made from fireweed, Chamaenerion angustifolium.

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Interesting that the Carolinas have several tea plantations.

There are a few different varieties of Bergenia crassifolia. Is there a lot of difference in the taste?

I would assume there to be minor variations, but I haven’t done a comparison. Some of what is commercially available is actually of hybrid origin with other Bergenia species so I imagine that would add additional variation. I’m not aware of any Bergenia species being unsafe to consume as tea, but prefer to stick with straight B. crassifolia to be safe since it is the one most used in this way. Many of the other species were used for their rhizomes instead of their leaves and I’m not sure if that’s just a matter of chance of if there’s a good reason for it.

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Rooibos tea has 0 caffeine too last i checked. I really like it

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I have been growing black tea plants for many years (20?) and making matcha out of it. Several health authorities claim that matcha is better for you than black tea because you get the whole leaf-not just the aquatic extraction. I don’t know. I just try to read what they say.

I harvest the leaves in the summer, dry them and grind them up. I don’t particularly like the flavor of matcha, so I just sprinkle it on my hummus. Hummus is one of my go to’s if something is healthy but not very good tasting. Like amla powder and raw garlic as well.

John S
PDX OR

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According to the marvelous teachings of Teavana, all the colored teas (white/oolang/black/green) come from the Camellia sinensis plant and the color just indicates how they long they were fermented for. So technically there’s no such thing as a black tea plant :grin:

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Most people say black tea so they aren’t confusing it with mint tea, green tea, etc. Some people prefer the flavor of black tea over the flavor of green tea. Also, some people like me prefer the price of black tea when I’m ordering out over the price of green tea, white tea, etc… :slight_smile:

John S
PDX OR

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It’s true and not true. Camilla sinensis includes large cultivars. Each cultivar has its own product features. Some are larger leaves, some are smaller leaves, some contains more caffeine, some contains less caffeine… different cultivars are suitable for making different types of retail tea products

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When you see

C. sinensis var. …

it is referring to “C. sinensis” the landrace, not the species.

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There is another tea farm in Pickens, SC (Table Rock Tea) about 4 hours inland from Charleston with a growing zone of 7B. You’d be surprised by how cold hardy they are but they need to be grown from seeds and not cuttings

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Забутий в Україні чай росте і квітує на Бродівщині
Forgotten in Ukraine, tea grows and blooms in Brody region

A little searching shows the Brody region to be in the Lvov Oblast, zone 6. Volodymyr, does the video mention what kind of winter protection is used?

We have zone 5. The sum of active temperatures is 2500…2600°C. Frost-free period is 170 days.
Tea plants can withstand up to -15°C.
For the winter, it is necessary to protect the roots from freezing - this is mandatory.
The easiest way to cover the bush itself with earth. The peculiarity is that if the winter is warm - under such shelter, the leaves fly around in the dark.
I have only one specimen. It does not form fruits from self-pollination.

Volodymyr.

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Does anyone have experience growing Camellia ptilophylla? Aka white hair tea? I went to Restoring Eden to get a C. sinensis plant and they were all out. They had one C ptilophylla they said they were trialing so they had no feedback or tips. I got it to try.

When I got home I looked it up and it appears like it’s very low to probably caffeine free. Has anyone here grown it or have any tips. Is it really caffeine free?

I will be getting a proper C. sinensis soon. If this one is really caffeine free anyone around seattle want it? Or should I grow it and make a blend of the two teas? Appreciate anyone’s input and Richard hoping for some of your wisdom. Happy Friday 13th everyone and happy growing. :seedling:

I had C.Pitlophylla and made tea out of its leaves, but I couldn’t tell there is caffeine or not in the tea. I just enjoy the tea aroma in general.

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