Carmine Jewell Cherry Yields increasing with age


#460

That happened to me a few years ago. Cherries were even a little tough! The flavor was outstanding all the same.

It was!

Mine too, I think it is environmental so it’s not a big deal. I don’t have any bare branches though. It is less, but not by much. We had a sudden 20F drop and most plants still had leaves last fall. It killed figs, mulberries, and even Southern Highbush blueberries. I lost 2 of each mentioned. 6 plants dead. May other figs were damaged. 6 died to the roots. I lost 3 peach seedlings too.


#461

CJ is a little too soft for my taste. I don’t care too much about it and would like to graft other cherried on to it. This is my CJ today
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#462

Yes it is a soft cherry as are most cherries. There are a few sweet cherries that are firm eg. bing but many of those sweet cherries are semi soft. Sour cherries are very soft.


#463

How long do you let your cherries hand on the tree after turning red? My Juliet cherries have been on the tree about a week, and I still think they’re way too sour to eat fresh.


#464

Let the carmine jewell sweeten up as long as possible (maybe a week or two).i keep all the animals and birds distracted with mulberries. Mulberries lay on the ground so they are easy picking for animals. I can then pick my juneberries and cherries at my leisure. We are picking more Carmine Jewell this morning. You can see they are not all black but against that black 3 gallon canner the color is fairly dark. These will be used for making juice.



#465

I posted a picture of my Jubieum tart cherries in another thread" What’s happening today - 2018 edition
To me, they were darker in real life than what the picture shows and were 18 brix which I think is pretty high for a tart cherry. They weren’t as firm as I thought they would be based on some descriptions. They were soft, juicy and about as good as a tart cherry gets for fresh eating. I would say they were similar to Carmine Jewel but a little bit earlier, bigger and tasted maybe just a smidgeon better, but I only got a handful off of a three year old graft. My Carmines are almost ready, I’ll probably pick them in 3 or 4 days. Hope the net stays on.


#466

When carmine jewell are close to ready the color darkens up significantly. These are actually ripe.


#467

Thanks for that comparison, Jublieum was one I was thinking about trying. Did you graft it onto your CJ?


#468

No, I grafted it onto a Surefire tart cherry tree. I kept the lower Surefire branches, then top worked it with a Jubileum graft. It has grown very fast in a few years. I really enjoyed them fresh, I just don’t know how heavy they will bear.


#469

All my Lapins sweet cherries brown rotted…all of them…i stripped the tree. My Carmine Jewel have shown no rot yet…and they are turning a dark red at this point. Birds are getting them too… taste is pretty good…not sweet cherry good, but good enough.


#470

We got torrential rain the last 4 days and more are coming. I had to pick all the remaining sweet cherries. I felt sorry for the out of town folks watching the CWS in Omaha.

Tony


#471

Indar works great on brown rot, and other funguses too like cherry leaf spot. It’s about the cheapest spray in my arsonal. You should have got in on the indar buy. Maybe try it on the next one. It works good on all the fruit trees.


#472

Yeah my gauge shows 4" since Sunday afternoon, so it’s been steady and frankly kind of a nightmare. My CJ’s are not quite ready, but I actually picked a gallon of slightly under-ripe ones in the rain today, as I assume with more rain in the forecast I’ll see a lot more of this…

That’s just a sampling, there are already a lot more like it that I picked and tossed…

So I got a gallon, then pitted 'em

Then made some jam

And while the color is slightly darker than the pix, they’re clearly not what I prefer to pick.

I hope my CJ harvest isn’t a bust, they’re loaded and drooping to the ground.

Every time I get cherry rain crack I wanna go give my ER a big ol’ hug - that big fella hasn’t EVER had a cherry rain crack!!


#473


My cj, taken yesterday.


#474

I would love to know the difference in taste between sour cherry ‘Montmorency’ and Crimson Jewel Jam.


#475

Well this batch of CJ is a bad one to compare - just not really ripe enough and the flavor of the jam was kind of bland, lacking any strong cherry flavor really. (Memo to self: Don’t try to rush cherries, even if some are rain cracking - the absence of flavor just doesn’t make it worth the effort)

But on years when the fruit ripens under hot and dry conditions it’s very good. In optimal conditions it just a very subjective thing in terms of what one likes in a cherry, taste-wise.

In my view, the Monty style cherries have a much more pronounced/strong cherry flavor that is accompanied with a distinct aroma. A couple characteristics that I find lacking in the CJ.

The ease of harvesting and spraying of the bush cherries is worth a lot though, and the color of the jam made with ripe CJ’s is a real winner!

I have a few on my two Juliet bushes that I should get to sample soon. Really looking forward to that!


#476

Carmine jewell taste very “cherry like” here in Kansas. They have been incredible this year!


#477

IMO they dont have what Id consider a traditional CHERRY flavor, but they are very good anyway. Im going to leave the sprinklers off in the zone where my CJ are this year to see if that changes fruit development and flavor…


#478

I think of ideal cherries as sour but some people think of cherries as sweet. They are more Tart than cherry tasting but in pie everyone who has tried them preferred them to montmorency besides those of us who made the pie and pitted them by hand! I think of montmorency as being king of pie cherries because of all their characteristics but guests loved carmine jewell every time more. I love CJ for juice only!


#479

Nice pic, Im stealing it!