Cold-hardy bananas from seed

I don’t remember much from when I was reading about Musa breeding, but I think M. velutina would probably be essential in any cold-hardy edible banana program. It’s one of the few (perhaps only?) cold hardy bananas that will flower and fruit in a single growing season. With other bananas, you have to have some way of overwintering the pseudo-stem, which drastically increases the challenge since p-stems can be quite difficult to get through a winter.

Juniper Level Botanic garden have M. velutina in zone 7b/8a and get fruit on them, I think usually by September.

I think that’s an Achilles heal unfortunately. No matter how tasty a new banana might be, it’s going to get compared against the commercial ones, which are A) dirt cheap and B) seedless. Someone breeding cold hardy bananas is gonna have to pull off cold hardy, early ripening, good flavor, and seedlessness. That’s a tall order. I’ll stick to citrus for now, not that cold hardy citrus is any easier haha

This is where I think new fruits that don’t have built in expectations, or hardy versions of less highly-selected fruits, is in some ways easier, even though you then have the hurdle of getting people to try stuff they are unfamiliar with. A cold hardy guava can have seeds and be sour, and people will still accept it, and a cold hardy Eugenia can be anything so long as it is tasty, since basically no one has any priors on what they expect them to be like. A cold hardy avocado, though, has to be rich, creamy, oily, etc. or people just aren’t going to care for it. Same problem with bananas.

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Well the good news on that front is most of the hardier varieties have good flavor and oil content, they are just very small and cannot really be transported, so they are more a backyard/u-pick/local market fruit, but I don’t think they have much commercial fruit production potential.

Yeah yeah, I took the bait to drag my own thread off topic :joy:

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Fell right into my trap :smiley:

People grow lots of things that are already dirt cheap at the store. Potatoes for example. Given that most stores only sell one variety of banana, there would surely be people who would grow an edible, but seedy banana since it would still be a unique eating experience. It would taste different than store bought, so better or worse it still adds variety to the edible experience.

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That’s attractive foliage

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It really is! I wish it was just a little more hardy, though. The p-stem seems to turn to mush at like 28°F. If it could handle the low 20s then it might survive every few winters, but 28° is almost guaranteed every winter.

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Yeah, plenty of different bananas. I remember in Thailand they have this little finger banana that is the worst smelling thing I’ve ever sniffed (makes durian smell pleasant), but it tastes amazing. (Just don’t breath while chewing)

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