Consensus on nanking cherries?

We planted three Nanking cherries from Fedco maybe eight years ago. Considered as ornamentals, they’re decently attractive with a cheerful early bloom. Considered as a wildlife plant, birds seem to enjoy the cherries. In terms of fruit for human consumption, though, I can’t recommend them. The cherries are tiny little things that are mostly pit, and mostly pit. I’ll maybe pick a handful a year to nibble on, but that’s the extent of it. In terms of health: one of the bushes died this year (some kind of root rot), and another looks like it’s heading that way. I am planning to remove them and replace with something else.

Note: my understanding is that Nankings are generally seedlings. So, it’s entirely possible that someone could have a better, or worse, experience with them than I have, just due to seedling variation. But I can’t really recommend them for fruit production based on my experience.

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I think meader cherries are more of a bush than a tree. It doesn’t look like the plants get very big at all.

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I’m more concerned with their no-spray characteristics than their size.

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Granted, I’m not a cherry fan… they were not part of my culture/upbringing, and I don’t really care for them… but I planted a Montmorency for my wife & kids, early on. It bore heavily every year, and early enough to excape any insect damage that I ever noticed. No one would bother to pick them, so when it died some years later, I did not replace it.

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I’ve planted jujubes, goumi, persimmons, and cornus mas on my “juglone free” section of my property. never even tried any of those fruits. I’m willing to entertain any idea for juglone resistant shrubs/trees of tasty, no spray fruit.

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Persimmon. Blackberry/Raspberry. Pawpaw(though they’re not high on my list, anymore due to concerns about the suggested connection with non-Parkinson’s neurodegeneration).

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been living here since 2015 so I’m acutely aware of the standard juglone resistant fruits. Ribes, mulberries, American persimmon (no proof kaki persimmon is also resistant), black raspberries, pawpaw.

Blackberries are proven sensitive to juglone and there are mixed stories on raspberries. only black raspberries seem to be definitively juglone resistant. I grow the Ohio treasure cultivar.

every species of Prunus is supposed to be tolerant, hence why I wrote this thread asking about nanking cherries. I can work google to do searches like the best of them, but finding anecdotal evidence from multiple sources on specific, less well studied plants is what I come here for.

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I’m not very familiar with this- so you have a section of property with black walnuts or something? Is it something that can be removed or you just live with it there?

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@Moose So all parts of black walnut trees secrete an allopathic chemical called juglone that kills sensitive plants. even if you cut the trees down the chemicals remain in the soil for years (maybe a decade) as the roots decompose. you are supposed to plant juglone sensitive plants at least 50 feet from the drip line, that is, 50 feet from the edge of the canopy, to prevent poisoning. Penn State has a good list of Species that are resistant to juglone.

I have a section of my property that is west of my driveway, far from all of my black walnuts, and gets good sunlight. I reserve this area for all of my plantings of fruit trees/shrubs that have no or questionable juglone tolerance. my vegetable garden grows within the 50 foot radius of one tree, but I plant all of my veggies in grow bags on top of landscape fabric. I call it my poorman’s raised bed.

even though they limit me, I still like their look. and one in particular gives a massive crop every year, although I have never gathered it. I have one that a local arborist recommended I get officially measured as he suspected it is a “county champion” (official list of the largest cultivars). here

below is a picture of my property (2.25 acres) with the walnut trees circled in yellow.
property trees

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My atempt to make hedged row of cherries. My neighbor might not have been so enthusiastic about it and put up a fence. Jan and Joel went in spring 2020 they showed promise in 2021 with a few berries and their output and quality have gone up each year. But as you can see, they are rather slow growers when left unmanaged. Everything else was planted in 2022, Nankings and apricots stabilize quickly and grew rapidly in their second year. I made a couple of attempts to head off the leaders, but I did not get much branching. The fence went in this year and they shot for the sun. The Hansen Cherry, Western Sand cherry seems to be on a gap year. Hopefully it will take off in 2024.

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Look into the other colors of nankings, reds are definitely seedlings to begin with but some nurseries start from cuttings. There is quite a few named cultivars of the reds you can get besides the seedlings. In all fairness the reds can be vastly different. There is three cultivated white varieties available in the US and some yellows in other countries. There is an elusive black Nanking that I tried to track down also. I’ve seen some posts of a pink Nanking too. All of those are going to be vegetative propagation and should be identical to what others have experienced. For me nankings were great for snacks. Made some cherry whiskey and rum soaking them for a few weeks. They do good for jelly or processing but they have a large pit for the size of the fruit.

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I think I decided against any cherries for now. While many can grow without spraying for disease, it sounds like spraying for pests like the Plum Curculio is inevitable in my area if you want a crop. maybe I’ll give them a try another year, but at this point I’m leaning towards the U of S varieties (like Sweet Thing) and/or the Dr. Meader cherries if anything, not nanking.

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The flowers on the white nankings are of course white.


While the Reds have a blush of red, and red calyxes

Medlers bloomed about a two weeks later

And the western Sand cherry eg hansen will bloom later this week or next

Apricots put on 3 or 4 feet of growth but no buds and I need to take the last 4 off to encourage branching

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