Crazy snake worm

I guess this older thread has come back to life.

I’m skeptical that introduced earthworms are actually detrimental to forest ecosystems. Sure, there’s been research that claims non-native worms are damaging our forests, but there’s a profound bias in environmental sciences towards viewing any change as bad and towards viewing pre-European contact North America as some kind of happy Arcadia. So they say earthworms are bad for our forests, and yet, North American forests evolved with earth worms. Every species supposedly harmed by earthworms coexisted with earthworms for their entire evolutionary history up until a very brief, geologically and evolutionarily speaking, ten thousand year lull.

Yes, earthworms significantly altered the mulch layer and that seriously changed the proportion of various species, but that change was a return to the normal state, not a change to something new and degraded. The normal, natural state that all North American species are adapted to isn’t the pre-European contact state, it’s the pre-Ice Age and indigenous American arrival state. And in that state, the environment of North America had earthworms. And a lot of other things that are gone. The pre-European contact ecology was already a deeply degraded, utterly decimated ecology.

Anyway, rant over. I’ve no idea if these snake worms, as a genus or family, were present beforehand but they certainly sound like they’re causing issues and might be a net negative (unlike earthworms).

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I am positive at this point that the jumping worms I found in my soil blocks came from the Brut Worm Castings. I found 6 more today planting starts that used that product and when digging in a place where I previously planted cool crop starts made with it. Frickin’ lost cause nightmare. I have to get my worm compost tubs going because I’m never buying castings again!

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Oof! So sorry to hear. That’s a disaster.

Well, after reading the comments I’m staying far away from any worm castings I don’t make myself with worms already on the property. I think those worms are in southern California, so it’s only a matter of time here in N. Ca.

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I’ve got a bag of brut and have been using it in blocks, i haven’t seen any worm sign yet in it but this makes me worry

Let’s hope your bag is clean! I used 2 bags of it last year without any.

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Man almost this entire time I was thinking the OP was talking about Asian hammerhead worms.

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someone gave me a bag of miracle gro gnat farm this year. opened it today and a cloud came out!

at least it wasn’t invasive snake worms but yuck

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