I am glad you found some trees on it. I have only seen the rootstock and only in bundles of 100. I don’t think many people on the forum have trees on it if any.
Unfortunately, cherry rootstock availability is much more limited than apple rootstocks. It’s gotten better over time but it still isn’t very good. Especially at the retail level. I have trees on krymsk 5 and 6, gisela 5 and 12 and mazzard.
I was looking at their 2025 and figured 2026 would be giesla. I might end up getting one from them too. On K7 I guess, gonna check the tree from starkbro in 2 weeks and scratch it if no leaves… I’d think it would have leaf out by now since planted in fall.
I’ll be happy to have someone a few miles away to discuss inevitable problems with for our experiment! Wish there was more data/first hand experience on them. I’m going to call Steve in summer and see if he has any insight to offer about them (K7 v 6 and the pearls). And, hold out hope someone on here will post success/struggles this summer if they purchased in the last 2 years.
howdy all, looking forward to learning a lot, does anyone want to help me with a spray schedule for my bing and black tartarian on long island ny? I have never sprayed anything before and I am a little overhwelmed I know 0 spray is basically impossible so trying to learn how to do it to not mess with the native inscects i work so hard to support
If you want a simple overview of spray schedules take a look at this post.
Sweet cherries are hard to grow due to cracking and brown rot. In the long term you are probably going to have to spray synthetic fungicides to control them in Long Island, New York. Captan, Bonide Infuse and Indar work pretty well on brown rot. To avoid killing pollinating insects you don’t want to spray during bloom. Indar is an exception to this since it isn’t toxic to bees.
Here is a guide to toxicity of sprays to bees. You may need to search by the trade name or chemical name as some sprays are only listed by one name or the other not both.
is there any data on things like hoverflies/moth/butterfiles?
What other variety would you have suggested? I just bought the bing local the black tartarian i picked out. (obviously would have to work with the bloom times of tartarians) maybe i can work in some scions if bing is going to be a dud since its still in early days
I don’t know of any general guide for hoverflies/moth/butterfiles as far as spraying. However, there are probably are scientific papers and articles for at least some chemicals covering them. Bees are probably the closest analog you are going to get for widespread testing since orchards don’t want to kill bees.
You don’t like yellow cherries. So I would suggest Black Gold. It’s crack resistant and productive and self fertile. It’s also a very late blooming so you won’t lose cherries to a late frost. However, it blooms too late to pollinate Black Tartarian reliably.
Black Pearl, Burgundy Pearl, Ebony Pearl and Black York would be good choices for you as they were bred in the East and have some crack resistance. Their bloom times overlap Black Tartarian well so that pollination shouldn’t be a problem.
My suggestion would be to buy Black Gold and one of the other cherries listed above. If space is a problem get them on a dwarf rootstock. Gisela 5 is ideal for a small space but Gisela 12, Krymsk 5, and Krymsk 6 will also work.
Has anyone tried the nugent cherry. It seems to be a Cornell variety that is all yellow.
I have whitegold and love it. It’s been in ground 4 years and this past year had a decent size crop for the first time. Wondering if worth it to get an additional cherry to extend harvest period. I also have radiance pearl and valentine bush cherry that haven’t produced much yet.
Are the yellow cherries really not picked on by birds as much? I do like dark cherries too, but don’t want to net a tree. Too much work especially when also having to spray. It seems like the birds left my whitegold alone. I have a ton of birds in my backyard as I also have sunflower seed feeders
Did you end up getting one? Hard to find out much of anything real about it, but I expect it to be very affordable at GGP when they have their sales, so I’m intrigued.
I probably should have asked this yesterday before placing the order, but Stella and Royal Ann will cross pollinate? I know Stella should set fine on its own. I kind of wanted to go with Black Gold, but despite seeming to be off-patent, nobody is selling scions. I have an Adara on Krymsk 1 tree to graft them to. Cherry grafts seem to turn out ugly pretty often anyway, so I have a built-in excuse for how mine turns out this time.
My friend asked me to look into Rainer cherries in zone 5b NY (between Ithaca, Syracuse, Binghamton).
Can they grow here or too wet?
Any pollinaters recommended if you can grow it?