EMERGENCY: Kentucky State University In Danger of Closing

That’s false. It is a USDA ARS repository, and one of 5 for Asimina. It is on federal land grant property. The staff that maintain it are USDA employees. If something like the water supply shut down they could simply move the specimens to another site. There is precedence for this - something the USDA has done several times over the past century.

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Yeah I’m sure the USDA would reliably come and rescue the pawpaw germplasm in no time if the water supply or funding got shut off. In a flash they’d be there with teams of backhoes digging up hundreds of 20 year old pawpaw trees and relocating them safely 3 states away. LOL. Let’s keep it real here on growingfruit.org.

ANYWAY, 2 month old post here, KSU was bailed out, so good.

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LOL! They would take cuttings, as they did moving 100’s of clonal specimens on multiple occasions in the past. Let’s keep it real here on GrowingFruit.

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As I see it, a lot of minority students go to KSU and 10 or 15 % of them actually graduate…most leave having no degree after having exhausted their federal and state grant options. Questionable use of money. By KSU. And by Frankfort for bailing them out.

In this case, KENTUCKY taxpayers bailed out an institution that had criminally mis-managed it’s funding.

So, the PawPaw program and all the other good and not so good programs survive.
The USDA so far as I can tell did nothing.

If I were a Kentucky Senator or Representative, I would have voted against a bail out at Kentucky taxpayer expense. Of KSU or any other school that can’t live within it’s means. (For they already got annual tax dollars from federal and state governments…a budget they should have managed and not mis-used.)

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Kentucky ranks the 6th least educated state. 45th in high school diplomas 47th for bachelors degree holders.
STUDY: Kentucky ranked as 6th least-educated state.

While clearly something needs to be done about KT’s education system. Not funding it at all just ensure KT drops to worse.

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Per capita, KY, wv, tn, and other states can compete in most fields or even out-compete.

Many a Phd holder knows an awful lot of stuff that ain’t so!
And quite a lot of 80 year olds that have an 8th grade education or less can compete in English, Math, History, etc., better than many a college graduate. My mom included, on her way towards 100.

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They didn’t need to.

Your subject of “minority students” and use of the word “them” is telling. As for the 10-15% matriculation rate - I believe it’s good in comparison to the UC system in past decades.

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Yes, I don’t have time to do the investigation, but I suspect the graduation rate is pathetic at most colleges and universities. I’m not singling out KSU…mismanagement at any taxpayer subsidized school should have some consequences.

Someone else brought to our attention that ‘we’ needed to send some more hard-earned money to an institution that has inept administrators. Or call the politicians and cajole them into kicking in some additional tax dollars on top of those they already send.

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By that token, the partially completed high school and Batchlors degree should be applauded rather then derided as failures of the system. If you only need to complete some of the system to be a success they will be.

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Absolutely…I’d highly recommend an apprentice program rather than college to a high school senior graduating next month. No tens of thousands of dollars of debt…and a good paycheck starting in June not June 2030.

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Well KT agrees with you. A quick read of what KT is doing for their work force leans heavily on apprenticeships. In this case I just going to hope KT the best.

I think it’s more the case that there are too many people that feel everything they need is on the radio, TV, or internet and are unaware how little they know.

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I always enjoy your comments Richard. Even when directed at me. Fortunately this one is not! I have a bs only but have worked for research PhD’s at Michigan state university. And have come to respect many of them. Although many others I don’t respect at all. So I get both sides here. What I have found to be true is very intelligent people have little to no common sense. In general those with an open mind do best. I have yet to meet the ideal human.

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I think you are referring to people who have acquired a lot of knowledge. In my experience the entire spectrum of what I call common sense runs through them, with the same distribution I see in trade workers here in San Diego county.

Then there is the subgroup of them who have remarkably high learning rates. They beat us all hands down when it comes to common sense.

But if what you mean by common sense is agreement with a political point of view - well that’s just not a topic for this forum. period.

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https://www.scholarships.com/colleges/kentucky-state-university/graduation-rates/

Graduation Rates

Graduation Rates - 2020
Bachelor’s degree seeking students completing a bachelor’s degree
Graduation Rate Within 4 Years 15.5%
Graduation Rate Within 5 Years 27.8%
Graduation Rate Within 6 Years 30.3%
Graduation rates within 6 years by gender
Women 33.8%
Men 26.4%
Graduation rates within 6 years by race/ethnicity
White 41.8%
Black african-american 27.4%
Hispanic 0.0%
Asian 50.0%
American Indian or Alaskan Native 100.0%
Race-ethnicity Unknown 33.3%
Non-resident alien 0.0%
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This thread has gotten too much into politics so is now closed.

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Not exactly.

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