OK. So things are different here. It’s my best ‘do nothing and it turns out fine’ type of tree.
Ripe mid Sept to Oct. 30 here…depending on the year…the Oct. 30 only happened once or something.
For ‘no spray’ it’s about my first recommendation. I have it on seedling, and a recent graft on G890 in a container that might bloom this spring.
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This is where everyone has to trial varieties for themselves.
ACN bases their maturity chart on their orchard in Aspers, PA (it’s slightly north of Gettysburg for reference… something important happened in Gettysburg in the 1860s…I digress). ACN has Evercrcrisp)MAIA-1 maturing in early November… having apples on trees into November makes some growers in areas that get hard frosts by that point skittish.
It’s hard to know how MAIA+1(the original Evercrcrisp variety) holds up after 1 apple…I know I enjoy it despite despite the often lack of red it has
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To me, EverCrisp is close enough to Fuji that if you like one, you’ll like the other.
But EverCrisp has the more crispy ‘bite’ sound as you take a bite.
My picking dates are probably 45 days earlier than ACN’s.
I wouldn’t disagree with ACN’s chart. We grow Enterprise, Aztec Fuji and regular Fuji. It ripens after all those here, but close to the Fujis.
I sprayed, but have never thinned enough. I don’t normally do “New Year’s resolutions”, but I really want to do a better job of thinning this year. I’m tired of getting lots of mediocre fruit.
I’ve been eating Evercrisp for at least 3 years now. Probably Ludacrisp too (a guy I know at the FM had an “experimentally numbered” apple from MAIA which tastes just like the Ludacrisp I sampled this year). Both are still top quality. I’m getting rid of a lot of apples (including all my mini-dwarf trees), but those two are keepers.
I feel a lot more ambivalent about Cosmic Crisp, though none of the CC I have tried have been locally grown. It’s got good texture, and OK flavor, but not to the level of Evercrisp.
I’ve got a sweeter tooth. A 21 brix apple is good. Cotton Candy grapes are also pretty good, though I also like when I can find sweet, crunchy red grapes. The grapes I grow aren’t anywhere near as good. Some of them are on the chopping block as well. I’m expanding my blackberry plantings, as I had some good berries this past year, particularly PA Freedom (primocane fruiting, with huge berries). I want to grow things as good or better than the grocery store, which I was accomplishing with blackberries, but not grapes.
Even when not properly thinned Evercrisp can make very large apples. At least some of them.
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I’ve noticed with ACN’s maturity that other parts of PA the fruit ripening will be in the same order (with peaches for instance the Rich May, 5B, Garnet Beauty, Red Haven ripening order holds up) but the day of the year when the fruit ripens changes.
Like the ACN maturity chart has Rich May ripening starting June 25th.
I live in a Philly suburb and an orchard I’ve worked at in the area has had ripe Rich Mays as early as June 9th…and from my understanding that changes earlier the further south its grown.
I’m not sure how much that affects apples…
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Got a few apples from local orchard today, Jan 10th. Evercrisp is really crisp, very sweet apple with some unique aroma. Sweetness just overwhelms everything else in this apple! Flesh color really surprised me, it’s yellow with some darker spots, looks unusual. Not sure if it’s a storage issue.
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Appears you have one that has not been in cold storage but just outdoor type ‘cool storage’.
But, they’re supposed to keep 3 months or more.
I’m looking for the sugar in them myself.
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It might be a case. Some other apples I tried from this place, CrimsonCrisp and Jonagold, were not crisp at all. I can compare CrimsonCrisp with my own grown apples (unfortunately they are gone already) so I know how dense and crisp they should be.
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I just ate an EverCrisp. Looked about like yours inside. I bought it about 4 weeks ago…and it’s been in my vehicle parked outdoors all this time. Including MID-TEENS.
The ‘crisp’ was gone. And the taste more like a Red Delicious with watercore… And no doubt it’d rot if set inside on a table at room temperature.
But, not this one, for I ate it. For a big pretty apple, uniform in size, it had only one seed.
Anyhow, not bad…but likely better a couple weeks sooner.
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In December I bought one EverCrisp from big box store…and it sat through mid teens and up to 50’s…for a month. Ate it 6 or so days ago. Enjoyed it. No appreciable damage from the cold…though I bet if it got brought inside to room temperature it’d have rotted quickly.
Very tasty.
Today, ate one purchased Thursday I think. Still very crunchy, but better than Honeycrisp or most Fuji.
Both better than the Cosmic Crisp I had yesterday…though not as pretty on the outside.
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Just bought some apples. Wow, it’s as sweet as fuji, texture is crispy and dense. Better than honeycrispy, better than fuji, bettet than old fashioned golden delicious. I really like this apple
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The first year I had my own business, I helped prune at a big orchard over the winter. The blocks of trees weren’t marked, and the other workers were never concerned with which varieties they were pruning. I was always asking which variety we were pruning and no one ever knew. Sometimes the owner would come out and help us and he knew which each row was. Unfortunately , I never had the opportunity to prune Evercrisp haha.
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…so sometimes I swear when I hear ideas get bounced around sometimes I think they’re in a vacuum.
Some varieties can be radically different from each other. My experience is that Jonagold’s a very fastigate grower and Honeycrisp on B9 roots is a slow grower…I suppose there’s some basic rules for pruning that apply but I would’ve figured someone would be going ‘hey, this variety grows a lot every year so we have to hit it a little harder’ or ‘hey, let this one go because we need that growth’
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Unless it’s a tip bearer I wouldn’t think you need to know the variety, just how it’s supposed to be pruned for whatever training system they’re using.
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It seems like people with phD’s keep playing around with how to prune; the latest I heard tuesday someone was running trials over which varieties grow back well from nubs and whether the nubs should be 2 inches, 3 inches or 4 inches
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You should consider adding Evercrisp to your collection. It satisfies three groups of people:the one loves sweet apples like most of my friends do. These people love Fuji which is sweet and no acidic taste; the one loves crispy , juicy texture like my kids do. They love honey crispy, cosmcrispy, etc; the one loves golden delicious type of dense apples that have a bit into it. I am one in this group. But golden delicious sometimes tasted
blend if it is not in the sun. Evercrisp has better sweeter flavor than golden delicious. I bet you will like it.
Although the Evercrisp I bought, some percentages of the cores have a transparent looking (don’t remember the correct terminology) which I saw in those high sugar apples. So, storage life could be a issue.
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I’ll add (cantankerously) as an apple enthusiast & gardener not a farmer that there are so many good apples (incl. feral & wild ones) in the world that it won’t pain me at all to avoid all these new ‘brand name’ apples with their mangled capitalization, hyper-enthusiasm, and crisp this, ever that (both here) that - to me - is already so insipid that it has forever tainted any theoretical flavor. Even when their hype is spent and, like HoneyCrisp (ptooey!) they’re the cheapest most abundant apples around.
They may be good (or solid, or perpetual or self-picking or whatever), but there are enough other good ones with friendlier names.
It’s the fruit name equivalent to those dismal ‘motivational’ posters (‘teamwork…’, ‘imagination…’, etc.), the numbingly bland ‘corporate vision statement’ advertisements constantly on npr, or those fake weathered cutesy wall-word plaques in fake scribble (‘home’, ‘friends family love’, etc.)… Or SUV names (‘yukon-denali’, ‘conqueror’, ‘dominator’, etc.).
Ow!
Next they’ll want us to use specific typefaces, or specific combinations of bold & roman & colors (but still no spaces between words) in apple names like other corporations.
Liberate the fruits and vegetables from the oppressive university marketing committees!
Logbook apple names like ‘MN477’ are far more dignified (as is frostbite) and of course all the truly beautiful, astounding, mysterious, & zany names we know & love!
Now back to your regularly linear discussion, sorry.
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Is the tree less a pain to grow than Honeycrisp?
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NO.
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