I would cross it with honey types.
The profichi has been proven persistent for sometime now. Not sure about any other crops. If some one has proven any other crops please let me know. This is the list I have came up with that is posted on FF.
LSU C-1 Not truly a LSU fig. But a California fig used at LSU for breeding.
LSU C-2
LSU DC-2
LSU DC-6
LSU DC-7
LSU L55-13-39 Bred with celeste and created LSU gold. Some believe it is C1
Capri Q
Saleeb
Enderud
347-1
Croisic Father of the persistent Capri In the US? Some including me believe yes.
Others believe Kearney which from studies had no parthenocarpic seedlings.
K11-7W
T 30E / K-11-30-E
K16-32W
UCD Found by treesofparadise And found to be persistent by GFM
FPTC A wild Capri from California found to be persistent by GFM
Mersin 06
Osmaniye 02
St. Anthony PC
TFH-292 Profichi found to be persistent by GFM. Mammoni ripened beyond the normal dropping point and I believe to be persistent.
But of course the local wildlife did not want me to prove it. Smile ![]()
I know I missed some. Will add them later. Additions or correction’s please message me.
There were multiple persistent Caprifigs in California prior to I. Condit’s tenure. Hamma is one of them. Swingle distributed it to other University breeding programs. It became the pollen parent of Alma at Univ. Texas.
There were two Caprifigs named Kearney. The first was named after M.T. Kearney during G. Roeding’s time. Condit wrote about it in his monograph. The second was developed at the UC Kearney Ag Center. It is not related to Croisic. That rumor is due to one of several misstatements in W. Storey’s 1975 Fig chapter.
Not here to argue. Just answering Eric’s question.
I do have to ask. You have Roeding 2 and the black Capri listed as persistent. The black Capri from Bass does have persistent profichi. Not sure about other crops. But Roeding 2? Did someone ripen the figs without the wasp?
It was claimed to be persistent when I first obtained in 2018. We shall see.
Many claimed but not so. I shall look forward to your findings. Your collection of Capri. I may have missed it. What is your goal? I may be able to recommend some.
This will be news to some in Davis.
I’m attempting to establish a B. psenes colony in a collection of varied persistent Caprifigs. I expect some of the Caprifigs I have now will be grafted over at the base, and I might have to breed a few more to get the variation I seek.
Glad to see you have non-persistent as well. Seems most if not all persistent Capri are missing something. ![]()
What do you mean by that?
@GoodFriendMike
Yes, G. Eisen said it well! Notice how I put 4 in a row that are suspected of having winter syconia.
Smart man.
Persistent Capri seem to not have the winter crop.
What are you seeking?
@GoodFriendMike & @KS_razerback
What Mike says about landrace F. carica subsp. carica Caprifigs is usually true. (Landrace … refers to what we normally call figs on this site and others).
We can however, consider F. palmata subsp. palmata, native to northeast Africa. It has noticeable differences with F.c. carica, including being evergreen in its native environment and growing syconia year-round – not in a parade of spring, main, and winter “crops”. It is also known for its spade-shaped leaves. In addition, some of its Caprifigs are persistent. Consequently, these individuals can provide concubine for B. psenes (the wasp) year-round.
The Algerians (of prior centuries) knew about this and produced hybrids of F.c. rupestris x persistent F.p. palmata. When W. Swingle made his famous trip in the 1890’s to the Mediterranian in search of wasps plus female and Caprifig figs, the Algerian agriculturists directed him to one of these hybrids. He took a large cutting of it ladened with syconia and wasps, then shipped it (literally) to G. Roeding in California. Both the wasps and the branch(es) survived the trip. That cultivar is “Hamma”. It was repropagated and became W. Swingle’s favorite mode of shipping wasps.
G. Eisen was actively researching figs at this time. A few decades later he became I. Condit’s mentor. Thus, I. Condit was well aware of “Hamma” at the onset of the UC fig research program in the 20’s (and also of Croisic at that time). So did I. Condit’s program try “Hamma” along with the many other Caprifigs of the day?
A set of persistent Caprifigs, each derived immediately from one of the F. carica flavor categories I’ve identified elsewhere.
To breed future varieties? Or to do what I have done. Breed them together. Either way. I do love your interest in growing them. And may have what you are looking for. It may take another year maybe two to prove them persistent.
As the foundation of a modern breeding program for backyard fig trees.
For this project, I will utilize the useful information and references in the recent CABI volumes from the Intl. Symposium on Fig (Adv. in Fig Research, The Fig); especially concerning which sexes carry which traits, and cytology tests for disease and morphologic susceptibilities.
I’m trying to breed some figs with improved cold hardiness (as far as I can get with ~6 generations unless I get somewhat close to the supreme goal of zone5 hardy trees) with the subgoal of breeding the heaviest production per tree after it freezes to the ground. Was thinking of testing about 100 trees for every cross initially and was thinking of only keeping ~360 trees to test every year and only testing trees for 4 years before ripping out the row that was has the 4 year trees to replace with the next years crosses. Have capri Q-DFIC 126 as my only caprifig for now.
