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I’m not confused about anything. Harvey is not making money from having your name attached to a fig cutting. He is just identifying the source as all reputable universities do. Selling anything is a form of marketing so calling his use of your name as “marketing:” is meaningless. He gains no marketing advantage. If you’re annoyed at Harvey or confused about his use of your name, as you clearly are, then email him. Ask him why he used your name on one variety and not others. As I pointed out above, there are valid reasons to do so. Harvey will have a reason. Why are you here complaining about it to those of us who don’t know why he used your name on this variety and can do nothing about it?

I believe that signs of FMV can only be very obvious, or obvious at all if the tree is weak, things like fertilizer and like healthy rootstock can make FMV infection way less obvious. Maybe even hide the affects of FMV all together.

I think it is only polite to ask. Maybe next time before giving out scion to say, please do not sell? Just a thought. A sticky subject I think :frowning:

You may or may not be confused but I answered your question fairly. It was important enough for you to challenge the idea but now you say it is meaningless, that is “moving the goalpost”. What is a marketing advantage or not is up to the individual customer, not for you or I to say. I am not complaining, aside from my first post I have been responding to your comments, conversations (and arguments) are a 2 way street.

I don’t have a problem with Harvey, but since these cuttings have already been distributed that name is public so it is fair that the discussion is too. I’d appreciate it if you didn’t confuse the issue further.

I am not confusing the issue. I am clarifying the issue. I would appreciate it if you would not keep accusing me of being confused when your confusion is what initiated this line of discussion and what keeps it alive. I pointed out that when you use the term “marketing” as broadly as you did that it becomes meaningless. Under the broadest definition even the font on a web page is a marketing issue but not all marketing issues make money. Harvey explains in detail almost everything he knows about each fig, including negative information, because he is trying to be honest and accurate, both rarities in the fig cuttings business. Harvey did not use your name to make money. He did not use your name to sell more figs. He used your name to clarify this fig’s origin. Why that the origin of that fig needs clarification I do not know. The most likely reasons would be that the cuttings are expensive, the figs are rare, other people are selling the fig and it looks different than what Harvey is selling or Harvey has the variety from multiple sources and they look different. . If you spent a few minutes thinking about it you might be able to come up with the answer. If you spent another few minutes you could email Harvey and ask him. Instead you spend your time posting comments about me being confused. I understand that you have had an emotional reaction to Harvey using your name. I get that. But Harvey had a reason to do it and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t to make more money. He may even be losing money by having your name attached to it. I have told you specifically why some universities attach people’s names to fruit and nut tree varieties and they typically aren’t doing it for marketing reasons. They are doing it for scientific clarity.

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Not a good example, a distinction without a difference. I happen to have both, but it helps a lot if Bass or Bekaa valley is used, otherwise it’s even more confusing. Both are awesome figs so far. I may change my mind after a few years of growing them, [quote=“hoosierbanana, post:44, topic:9744”]
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If I saw your name on it, i would buy it for sure.

As grown by Harvey RL and LR are quite different. One has large light red figs while the other has smaller darker red figs. RL is the Bekka Valley version. LR is from Bass.

Yeah but they have the same name!! You missed my point by a hundred miles. I can’t remember which end in red and which begins with red? You had to explain to me they are different, so hence a terrible example of labeling if you ask me. I do agree that Lebanese Red is a red Lebanese fig though.

My only point is that they are different figs. I believe both labels originally came from Bass. I tend not to remember which is which either, but if you’re buying cuttings from someone who labels them as RL or LR and doesn’t use any other identifiers, I would hope they know which is which.

Hoosierbanana, Castanea, Alanmercieca…

Can you guys tell me which are the top ten best tasting figs in the list below. Thanks for your input.

Tony

LSU Gold 3
White Triana not? 3
Violette De Bordeaux 3
BT Simpson lowes 3
Hardy Chicago 3
Celeste Holland 3
Valle Negra 3
Celeste Goss 3
Black Jack 3
Tacoma Violet 3
Dark Greek 3
Sal’s Corleone 3
Mary Lane Seedless 3
Conadria 3
Sicilian Red 2
Emerald Strawberry UCR 143-36 2
Gino’s Black 2
Florea 2

The only one I hace is Black Jack. I love it but died last year as I took it outside too early :frowning: Decent size fruit with a honey taste according to my palate.

Thanks Roundface,

I will root that one. 9 more to go.

Tony

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It is also a compact fig. I had it in a container. I will be getting Black Jack again :slight_smile: Can anyone tell me if there is another name for Little Miss Figgy Fig? thx

It really depends on what your tastes are. Long ago I liked the green figs with the very sweet red jelly like interiors and the simple flavors. Now I like the purple skinned figs with complex flavors and less sweetness or figs that have unusual flavors. I haven’t tried all the figs on that list but of those I’ve tried the worst is easily LSU gold. I grew it for years and finally pulled it out. I also place Mary Lane and Celeste pretty low on the list.The best for me is Violette de Bordeaux. Flavors will be different though depending on where you grow the figs.

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I was very fortunate to have all those cuttings from a good friend and try to narrow them down to ten best tasting ones and will try to keep them potted.

Tony

Hardy Chicago, Takoma Violet, Dark Greek, and Gino’s are all Mt. Etna types. They are great, cold hardy, precocious, tasty, rain resistant and early ripening. You might notice some differences or you might not think they are significant, have not tried Dark Greek.

Valle Negra and VdB are also very similar to one another, very high quality fruit but not as hardy, precocious, or early ripening.

Sal’s Corleone and Sicilian Red could also be synonyms (edit: unless it is actually Red Sicilian, which is an Etna type), very high quality fruit also but mid season ripening as well.

Florea is great because it usually ripens weeks ahead of the rest. It can have issues with splitting and bugs because the eye is large. The taste can vary quite a bit also (like most others) but can be very sweet if the tree is not too vigorous or the weather too rainy.

White Triana has been great in a container also.

Celeste tastes great but tends to drop fruit in the north, I’ve had marginal success in containers.

@Roundface Little Miss Figgy looks to be in the VdB group.

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Thanks.

Tony

Hoosier,
Thanks for your comments on Tony’s question.

I would like to ask if you could comment on the following varieties for me, please.
As you can tell, I really don’t know what I am doing re.figs but have them in pots.

Atreano
Brunswick
Paradiso
Ronde de Bordeaux
San Peitro
Sal’s ( don’t really know how many Sal’s there is out there)
White Genoa

I would like to look for tasty early ripening figs. Would you mind recommending some, please?
My standard tasty fig is Chicago Hardy (same as Hardy Chicago, right?)

Thx @hoosierbanana I bought both Miss Figgy and VdB from Hirts garden. Both have not bear yet :frowning: Not sure if they will this yr. VdB is rather spindly in growth. I did get 0-10-10 today and see if I can fatten them up.