It’s good to hear that pollination shouldn’t be a problem, Scott. I’m interested to hear that you’re trying those two russets and will keep an eye out for them in your future reports.
Wealthy is a helpful suggestion, Jesse. I’ll definitely keep that in mind for an early apple, which I haven’t had a plan for yet. (Matt mentioned Ginger Gold above.)
@MikeC: I appreciate your point about doing research beyond catalog descriptions. What resources have you found particularly useful? In addition to this forum, which has been extremely helpful, some of the things I’ve looked at are Beach’s Apples of New York (helpfully available on Google Books), Burford’s Apples of North America, and Jacobsen’s Apples of Uncommon Character, as well as the Orange Pippin site and Adam’s Apples. I’ve also used this RHS page that provides a list of some scab-resistant apples (and pears), which I found particularly interesting in that it includes a number of older varieties: Apple scab and pear scab / RHS Gardening.
With your concern about Baldwin freezing out, are you thinking of the notorious winter kill back in the day? While I am in zone 5b, it would be highly unusual for us to get cold that severe here.
@VSOP: Northern Spy was on my long list, kind of in the same category as Baldwin: classic New England apple, very good if you can get it right, but enough growing concerns (from what I understand) to push it down my personal list for now. Orange Pippin rates it as poor for disease resistance, with some susceptibility to CAR as well as FB, and I was also aware that it could be very slow to bear. (In fact, my dad planted a Northern Spy in our backyard when I was a kid, and I don’t think it ever bore fruit to speak of. In fairness to the tree, it was not an optimal site, and I don’t remember it being noticeably unhealthy, just no fruit for more than a decade.)
In general, my method was to start by trying to identify high-quality heirlooms with a decent reputation for growability (especially scab resistance) and bonus points for a NE pedigree. Some great apples (such as Cox and Spitzenberg) got knocked off my list for growability concerns, and others got knocked down it (such as Baldwin and Northern Spy). That being said, I realize that my short list includes a few things that can be tricky to grow (such as Ashmead’s and Mother) and others that I don’t know as much about as I might want to (such as Westfield and Gray Permain). And there are almost certainly others that have issues I’m not aware of yet…
As far as the question of how concerned I should be about fire blight in general, that’s something I’d like to get a better handle on, both for apples and pears. I believe that Alan, whose experience I definitely respect, has said that it’s never been a major problem for him in his part of NY, but that he’s been seeing more recently than in the past. For the moment, I’m looking at moderate FB susceptibility as more of a yellow-light than a red-light. If anyone has any further insight on FB in the Northeast, I’d definitely be happy to learn more.
@womblesd: Thank you for the additional information on Yates. It does sound like it’s probably a little too late for me if Scott is having trouble ripening it and its coming in for you in early November.
@maineorchard: That sounds like a sensible approach for a U-Pick. Just taking a quick look around at what people are growing, most of the small orchards around here seem to go pretty mainstream in terms of varieties, with a lot of the Mac family, and Gala and Fuji also being popular choices (less Honeycrisp than you might expect, actually). Paula Red looks to be popular for an early choice, and Mutsu also seems to have caught on. Some places do look to be getting more into the modern DR varieties, and a few have included a sprinkling of heirlooms (I noticed Roxbury Russet, Golden Russet, Winesap, Wealthy, and - this actually surprised me - a couple of places growing Westfield SNF. Looks like I’ll have to do a couple field trips in the fall!)
Just to clarify, though, I’m just planning a home orchard, not a commercial one. (Even so, I am certainly making things a lot more complicated than I could be…)
Thank you again, everyone.