Having seen enough distortions of science in my career, I prefer to check all relevant parts myself. But political football is very appropriate. I found myself having no political home. There is the left saying that we will have a strong economy, if only we switch to renewables. The right seems to think that we can return to unlimited consumption if only we let the “market” extract new oil. I agree with neither. There is plenty oil, but no oil that can be profitably extracted, and mineral supplies fall very short of supporting a renewable revolution. So I left. GW seems like a minor distraction to me, compared to energy shortages.
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I have several of their mechanical pencils and I love them! They are my go to pencil. Dark lead, extra thick (1.3 mm). An eraser that erases and doesn’t leave a smudge mark. Cheapest for me from Lowes.
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I wish I could answer you, but Scott has spoken. Maybe I will message you later if I feel the urge to write and don’t have another more rewarding outlet, given I know I won’t be changing any minds by delving further on this.
@PaulInMaplewood — had a busy weekend but wanted to get back to this issue today after thinking about it more and focusing on things that might actually help answer your question.
Are there any adverse health consequences to being able to eat as much fruit as you care to eat?
I think the answer to your question is YES and NO…and it depends on the individual… and to some extent their age, their health, the condition of specific organs for example your pancreas.
You can google search this and get details from the CDC…
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37.3 million Americans—about 1 in 10—have diabetes. About 1 in 5 people with diabetes don’t know they have it.
An estimated 3.1 million adults (1.3%) in the United States have been diagnosed with inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), which includes Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis. It is a broad term that indicates chronic inflammation of the gastrointestinal tract.
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I happen to be one of those 3.1 million… and I was told by Doctors all my life, that what I had was not reversible, not curable, it was a disease I would have all my life. I stopped eating carbs and it went away completely verified by my GI doctor with a colonoscopy.
One reason I speak up so much about this is that I know full well that so many of those 3.1 million people do not know that something can be done. The word is getting out, so hopefully more and more find help with that even if their Doctors never say a word about it.
Some Doctors to speak out, and do offer help, and that number is increasing so I have hope for the future… more hope that is. But enough about my health issue and my hopes… and on to perhaps helping with your original question.
How do you know the possible consequences of having as much fruit as you care to eat ?
Notice in the CDC data on Diabetes … 37.3 million Americans have it (1 in 10) and about 1 in 5 do not know they have it (yet).
What can you do to find out for sure ?
The video links below… Berry and Berg offer some help and suggestions.
Dr. Eric Berg - The most important blood test…
Dr. Ken Berry – test that predict diabetes / insulin resistance
Dr. Ken Berry – Medications that worsen your Insulin Resistance
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To play devil’s advocate, what about the 90% of Americans who do not have diabetes?
And to further stir the pot, what about the 1 in 10 who by changing their diet and adding more healthy foods (for most I’d imagine additional fruit is a step in the right direction) would eliminate or better manage their diabetes?
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Unfortunately my personal experience with my doctors is that they have been good for most issues but they are way behind on how to advise Type 2 diabetics. The standard pills and advice to cut back on eating just won’t help most patients. Although late to the game I feel fortunate to have these doctors who are on the cutting edge of how to help.
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I’m sorry, but I’ve seen you post several videos and they’re mostly Dr. Berry and now Dr. Berg videos. Dr. Berry is well known in the medical community. He constantly pulls data from research/studies and regularly misinterprets them and spreads misinformation. Please don’t use him as a primary source of knowledge.
Dr. Berg is not a medical doctor. He is a chiropractor and has no business or real understanding of how medicine and health works. He is worse than Dr. Berry. Dr. Berry at least tries to pull information from genuine research and studies but misinterprets them, Dr. Berg on the other hand pulls knowledge and “facts” from out of the air.
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As I stated before; nothing you eat exists in a vacuum. Start by looking at the rest of your diet, physical activity, and health issues, and that should give you an idea of what effect that would have.
I used to buy bags of plums for my long distance bike rides. When they were in season I could go through several bags a week. In a week where most rides were 40~70 miles with longer ones on the weekends if anything I could have eaten a lot more plums. If I were to do that now it would hurt.
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everything in moderation. 
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The potential negative health consequences of eating too much fruit are largely the possibility of getting type 2 diabetes. Isn’t that correct? But doesn’t everyone know that type 2 diabetes is largely preventable and even reversible? Lose weight, eat better, and get as much physical activity as possible. Very simple.
So I’m sorry if this sounds harsh but blaming your doctor for your type 2 diabetes is infantile. Get your butt to work, find some self-discipline, and quit blaming someone else.
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I’d say most people who have an understanding of health are well aware that the majority of type 2 diabetes in the USA can be treated with diet and exercise.
With that being said, many people don’t have a firm grasp on the concept. In either case, the primary care doctors I’ve worked with always stress the fact that the disease process is largely a lifestyle related disease and the patient should improve their diet, lose weight and exercise in order to improve or reverse it. As to why some members here believe that doctors keep it as a deep dark secret that they take to the grave is beyond me.
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I would argue that what many people do not have a firm grasp on is a commitment with delayed/denied gratification. I would say that to a huge number of them folks giving up junk food and sodas is a bridge too far.
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I would completely agree with you there. The reason that doctors give you a prescription of metformin in addition to lifestyle modifications is because unfortunately many if not most patients won’t change their lifestyles to fix the underlying process.
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You know, I have this conversation with a friend who is a nurse, probably on a quarterly basis. Sometimes the truth does hurt. If you are able, start walking, then jogging, then running on a regular basis while also eating healthy foods. Cooking for yourself instead of eating out or pre-made is a good start. If you can’t walk, try biking. If you can’t bike, try swimming. Any cardio is healthy. I’ve gained about 20 lb in the past 12 or so years since I stopped running a few times a week (a habit I need to pick up again).
Let the record show that I personally need to reduce my late night milkshake and peanut butter Graham Cracker habit. Maybe when my daughter isn’t waking most nights at 2am I’ll have less hunger signals lol
I think most people acknowledge that, but similarly to saving for retirement (which the majority of Americans are not properly prepared for), changing habits is hard. I think most of my friends have the “you can pry my hamburger and my beer out of my cold dead heart attack hands” mentality. And they have the freedom to choose that lifestyle, even if the rest of us are paying more in health insurance premiums for preventable diseases. But that is a topic to be continued in the lounge…
See my above about retirement, I think you drew a wonderful parallel there.
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Throw mercury in there. My early 90s science class in middle school–the teacher allowed us to hold mercury in our hands (i didn’t).
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Heh… That reminded me of something I was likely to never think of again. Mid 80’s high school physics class teacher allowed students to do the same. One of them had on a gold class ring and it adhered to it. They came in to the class I was in to confer with the chemistry teacher as to what to do. That teacher was worried he was about to be buying someone a new ring. 
Yes we all did in grade school. It kept us entertained.
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The science of nutrition has a severe handicap when people are the subjects of the studies — humans. While some research is clear-cut – scurvy is caused by a deficiency of Vitamin C – most often there are too many variables that cannot be controlled. Clinical trials rely on humans, and humans, other than prisoners or nuns, don’t live in restricted environments for long periods of time. We are too diverse. Humans can be observed and measured, but they can’t be experimented on like a lab rat. Humans don’t follow directions, lie on questionnaires, don’t remember things, and cheat on diets. They have too much going on. They live their lives freely and can’t easily submit to rigorous regimes. Studies of long-term effects require decades, not weeks. So when I see a study that indicates eating two eggs for breakfast every morning is good, and I remember that my grandfather had bacon and eggs for breakfast every morning and lived to 91, I’ll accept that study. I think the ancient medical advice of moderation in all things has stood the test of time, but we should probably follow that advice in moderation, as well.
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Not according to the research I keep posting. Do you have any research that reveals a different result as far as eating generous amounts of whole fruit? That’s the stuff we tended to consume as hunter gatherers, and when we came onto a bush loaded with ripe berries or a tree loaded with ripe fruit, I suspect moderation was out of the question. Of course, their lives came with ample exercise, but it does suggest a natural tolerance could be in our DNA, while processed sugars and starches might be different.
I work around orchards every day and during the bearing season I am eating fruit constantly and never experience negative consequences so it is easy for me to accept the research I’ve posted. I suppose the fruit you produce could be of such high brix that it’s dangerous- the studies I’ve posted certainly involved more watered down fruit.
As far as the limitation of epidemiological studies- yes they are well known, but if you have enough people from different cultures and countries in enough tests of something like the consequences of eating whole fruit it would seem to give you something far more reliable than the anecdotal observations of a couple dozen people. Advice coming from such studies would seem to be much better than advice that comes from anecdote on a subject like this.
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Not sure if anyone mentioned this specifically, but there is some interesting research indicating that reasonable amounts of fructose can be metabolized by the small intestine, thus protecting the liver somewhat.
https://rdcu.be/cZqXS
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