This is what I want to know about persimmon cultivars more than anything!
The ones that break dormancy early have been very susceptible to late frost damage here. Prok and JT-02 are my earliest to break dormancy. Yates breaks a bit later. Nikita’s Gift and Rosseyanka break much later and have never been hit by a late frost because of it.
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I hope to have some data on this next spring.
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I am curious about Sosnovskaya as well! It’s been a year - I was wondering if you or anyone else has learned more details about this cultivar?
- I’ve read cold hardiness ratings on the internet from anywhere between -11F to -22F.
- Many descriptions online seem to include “The variety itself is an excellent pollinator” - does Sosnovskaya throw male flowers???
- Still curious about ripening time compared to other hybrids or DV as well.
This year the weather is way too warm in my Nebraska Z5. 56 degrees right now on 12-28-24 thanks to La Nina. All the figs and potted Kaki persimmons starting to have green tips in the green house. All the new Urkainian and David Larvenge Hybrid persimmons won’t get cold hardy testing this year due to the warm weather. Hopefully next year the weather will get colder for the trials.
Tony
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My peaches blooming and the blueberries are getting new leaves. Bad news for fruit trees here!
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Don’t count your chickens. I remember a mild winter here in 2022-23 – until two nights at -5 to -7 F in Feb 2023. Two bad nights in a long, mild winter nearly exterminated my three IKKJs.
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That what I’m afraid is going to happen here. We actually have an arctic front predicted for next week and everything is going to be shocked!
We have a cold front the last 2 nights of -9F. This will test out some of the not to hardy hybrid persimmons plus my Tam Kam X Chocolate also.
Tony
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Tuesday night is predicted to be -8F here z6A. It will be interesting what cultivars are affected for you. Maybe you can give us an update on bud break.
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Yikes. Good luck. It’s relatively cold here too but this morning only got down to +14 F. I’ll take it.
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Hi. I have a pollinated hybrid seedling, Dar Sofiyivky x Novokakhovsky pollinator. Grown in 2024. It differs from others, of the same cross, in burgundy young shoots and petioles. The leaves are glossy, dark green. In the future, I will observe, if there is an interesting form, I will write.
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This is David Pierce best Z5 hybrid persimmon of Rossyanka female X Terre Haute, Indiana native male called Pierce KYT. Very promising fruit. He got a few hundreds producing hybrids and this was the best of them all.
Tony
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More good news from David Pierce. He has another good hybrid called F110 with 2 different shape of fruits on one tree. Like a double embryos. Weird, but I am excited for Z5 growers. Pretty soon he will let us have the scions.
Tony
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Thats really cool, is the different shaped fruit growing right next to each other or in different branches? Wonder if its a pollination thing or maybe a type of sport on a particular branch, or a secret third thing.
It’s a little overwhelming to keep track of all the new varieties of hybrids and American persimmons being cultivated. I have a few kaki that I started grafting a few hybrids on this year like Kassandra, Nakita’s Gift and a few others. Is the goal to develop these new varieties for taste, or is it for mostly zone hardiness? Do these new varieties taste vastly different than existing cultivars and worth adding to my yard?
The breeders are trying to create hybrid persimmon for good taste and aimed for Z5 cold hardy so the majority of folks can grow them.
Tony
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I just potted a group of new arrival Kakis for crossing in the near future to make a better tasting hybrid persimmons. To name a few like Kitaro, Maxim, Kuro Kaki, Luo Tian Tian Shi, Novost hybrid persimmon from the Czech Republic.
Tony
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Im in Virginia 7b
I have 4 locations to plant some new grafts
My choices are below based on number of scion. Virginia rootstock.
Sofies gift x2
63a x2
Mikusu x1
100-46 x1
Chuchupaka x1
Would love you feedback
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I think I would go with one each of all in your list, except Mikusu. I think Mikusu is a good choice in colder areas if you want something bigger than an American, but for 7B where any should do fine it wouldn’t make the cut for me.
That’s helpful
I already have fuyu, tanenashi, hachiya, prok
Leaning towards
Sofies, lehmans, 63a and maybe another sofies if I can’t find a convincing 4th choice