Improved or hybrid American black cherry?

Prunus serotina subsp. capuli, the capulin cherry (aka P. salicifolia) of Mexico supposedly has fruit up to 3/4" and is sold for consumption locally. One description says “The fruit is round, with red or nearly black smooth tender skin. The pulp is juicy and may be sweet or acid, agreeable but slightly astringent in flavor. It has a single large stone with a bitter kernel. The fruit is of good quality…”

Perhaps those could be used to improve the US version, unless they’re hardy enough to survive here themselves. I’ve searched online before and came up dry with respect to serotina hybrids.

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I finally got an answer about Knudsen black cherry juice from them. No response from an email weeks ago but a recent phone call got an answer today. She named about 8 or 9 dark colored sweet cherry cultivars that go into it in varied amounts. All prunus avium - no prunus serotina.

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Well, congrats to whomever is their recipe master and taste tester, it fooled me.

Thanks for looking into this, I never expected to find out for sure.

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Thats what I expected, its too easy to go that route since there are plenty of seconds from commercial cherry orchards.

Around here there are a fair number of wild prunus avium which seem to survive. I never cooked with any of them but they would probably be pretty good. The fruits are usually small, sweet, and somewhat bitter. These trees were imported from Europe many years ago.

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found a tasty capulin…

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Wild black cherry grows all over here…

This one is in my back yard.

I eat them and like them… so so…
Dark rich flavor… needs a heap more sweetness.

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The wild black cherry will make a descent wine, collecting enough can be challenging though.

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Can’t Chokecherries be grafted to black cherries? Their cherries are a lot larger and sweeter than black cherries.:thinking:

I know only one selction called ‘Żółwin’. It was selected by Carya Nursery in Poland Bird Cherry - hardy fruit trees for backyard gardens- Carya nursery .

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Those cherries in your hand in the link looked exactly like some of serotina fruit I have had locally, all except for size. Interesting cultivars, also!

The hybrid creation and later disappearance was exciting-then sad.