In search of orange day lilies

This link explains the differences between wildflower Tiger lilies and Oriental lilies well.

The lilies you posted are what I considered Oriental lilies.
The tall, orange one you are looking for is what a lot of people around here call Tiger lilies.

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At least they sell it as Tiger lilies :rofl:

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I have catmints, echinacea (Purple Cone Flowers), Tiger lilies but not yarrow (used to).

I like them all. In my experience, catmints will flop over if there is not enough sun. It looks messy.

My Tiger lilies (in the backyard) and my neighbor’s (in the front yard) do not spread very fast at all. They are flowering now and take shady area very well. You are welcome to dig some but I don’t think I have enough to fill the area you need. I like the look of them.

Echinacea is my favorite. They are upright and neat looking while giving you that wildflower feel. Mine don’t spread much. I need them to cover the whole area but it is a long way to go. They flower a few weeks after Tiger lilies.

Flowering succession in my yard catmints, Tiger lilies, then, Echinacea.

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Catmint should be easy to propagate from green cuttings. I bought one plant and I am going to do propagation. I had it in the old house planted on a steep hill, it flopped down the hill and made a nice carpet suppressing the weeds. This is what I hope for here as well - the strip is going down from stone wall to the road, so I hope they will just flop down.

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I did a similar project a couple years ago now. (Like Galina, I’m also in MA, so pretty similar conditions.)

Our strip is I think about 75’ long and about 3’ wide, between the street and the sidewalk. Our situation is complicated a bit by the fact that there are two large maples in the strip, so while it gets hot afternoon sun it also gets shade and there is significant tree root competition.

I weeded and planted two staggered rows of “ditch lilies” (hemerocallis fulva), placing each chunk about 18" apart. (We got the lilies from my parents’ neighbors, who were digging their patch out, so they were free.) Then I mulched with wood chips around the lilies.

Observations so far: True to their reputation the lilies have been very tough and vigorous. I could definitely have been more skillful in dividing and planting them, and more attentive in watering them the first summer, but they have basically all survived and are now going strong. They haven’t totally filled in the space, but the individual clumps have definitely filled out, and it looks like they are starting to produce more offshoots. In terms of flowers, we got a few the first year, considerably more the second, and looks like we’re getting a lot more now. They don’t seem to be fazed by sun, shade, roots, drought, or the sand/salt the city puts down in the winter.

However, they are not (yet?) super effective at weed suppression, partly, I suspect, because their foliage doesn’t really fill out until relatively late in the spring, and partly because their foliage is comparatively “loose”, leaving spaces between the leaves. Quite a lot better than nothing (!), but I do have to weed and mulch. Like you, I’m thinking about interplanting some other things, partly to help with weeds, partly for the pollinators/birds, and partly for aesthetics.

Some of the things that I’m thinking about using are things that you’ve already mentioned. I’ve found that catmint is pretty good for weed suppression, especially where I have it interplanted with iris (mostly northern blue flag). It is indeed very easy to propagate from cuttings, and great for attracting beneficial insects. And it’s also been very hardy and apparently salt tolerant. However, I do find that it needs to be cut back hard after the first flush of growth/flowers are spent, and then again early in the spring to remove the stuff from the previous year. So, not totally maintenance free.

I’m also thinking about interplanting echinacea and sedum (as others have mentioned), and I’ve noticed that some of our neighbors are successfully growing hostas by the street, although they may be in situations that are somewhat less sunny than yours.

Hope this is helpful!

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You can get some cutting of catmint from me, too.

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Did some research. True tiger lilies are Lilium lancifolium. (https://www.chicagobotanic.org/plantcollections/plantfinder/lilium_lancifolium--tiger_lily )They are exactly what I posted as picture - upright stem, grow from bulbs. The orange ones you called Tiger are growing from roots, not bulbs, spreading by rhizomes, they are Hemerocallis fulva with a lot of common names, including Tiger daylilies, note, note Tiger lilies, but tiger daylilies (Hemerocallis fulva (Daylily, Ditch Lily, Orange Daylily, Tawny Daylily, Tiger Daylily) | North Carolina Extension Gardener Plant Toolbox).

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Great info, thanks! With lilies not suppressing the weeds - it may get better with time when they fill in. For the maintenance - I absolutely do not mind regular maintenance - after all it is what that makes gardening - gardening. I just hate to do a useless work of removing the weeds from empty spot. I also found that it is only one way to keep a spot mostly weed free - have it planted with something that can compete with weeds.

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We have them on our property in several locations, mostly along the roadways. Around here they are referred to as Tiger Lilies (hemerocallis fulva). They were wiped out in some areas by the road construction a few years ago, but they’re back and doing well. They don’t spread too quickly, but are able to compete with the Bishops Weed. I’d offer to dig you some, but you don’t want a piece of Bishops Weed they’re mixed with, horrible stuff! I’ll keep an eye out for a patch that’s BW free. They can be dug any time of year, you just can’t kill them.

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The link I posted also said the same thing.

On a drive this morning I pasted a house with a 50ft strip of wild day lilies, hemerocallis fulva as @JinMA mentioned, at the road edge. looked nice.

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It won’t suppress weeds by itself, but have you considered beach plums? They are smallish shrubs, drought and salt tolerant, and will produce small plums that are great for jams and jellies. You can get a bunch of seedlings for cheap from the NH state forest nursery when they open ordering over the winter. You could also do bayberry as an informal hedge, which would suppress weeds well.

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We do not have sidewalks, so I do not want to prevent us or other people from stepping off road when needed on the walk to the near by trail, and bushes will be more serious obstacle than grassy plants. Also I hesitate to eat fruit grown right near the road, especially low growing fruit. The chemicals they use now in winter are pretty harmful.

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This thread illustrates, once again, how ‘common names’ can vary from place to place.

I’ve known the ‘wild’ orange Hemerocallis fulva daylilies as ‘ditch lilies’ all of my life, but had never heard/seen them referred to as Tiger Lily… which, in my universe, is Lilium lancifolium .

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because they are Tiger DAYlilies! Nothing simple, right? :grin:

I remember Bishop weed from back days in our garden under Moscow, Russia. It was a major weed there, and you had to fight it hard to stop from moving to cultivated beds. All other spots of the garden was completely covered with it.

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I grew up in New England. My mom always called those tiger lilies as well. They were her second favorite flower, after lilacs.

I had 4 big patches of them here in Mi when I moved into this property. I dug out one big clump one year to send her some, in Fl. I packed as many as I could into a box and left the rest in a couple of plastic grocery bags, which I forgot about. The next couple years, those bagged lilies grew and bloomed. It took 3 years for them to finally die.

I can tell you they don’t care about salt. I remember them growing by the ocean and my remaining patch here is on the side of the driveway in an area I salt. The only flaw I see in your idea is that they are kind of a gangly plant, but exceptionally healthy.

I have some still, as well as what everyone around here calls “tiger lilies” which are a bulbil forming spotted true lily. These ones are, I assume, infected with a lily virus as asiatic lilies planted nearby have shown signs of such a virus.

My own “hell-strip” is planted with lavender. It doesn’t care about salt. I don’t have to water it and it looks good with the non-vining clematis and anemone I have there.

Remind me in the fall and I’ll send along what I can.

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These are the type we grow in this area. They dont bloom as much as others. They are spread around on my property. I’m trading a woman some yellow ones for some of my orange ones and some orchard help. Would love to have other colors of these lillies!





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You should see what they put on the stuff at grocery store :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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I’m fairly certain the ones I originally mentioned filling vast swaths in my area were Hemerocallis. The couple I brought with me have not started spreading yet, and they have not noticeably spread far at the place I used to live after 5 years, but I can’t say that the fellow who does the yard doesn’t mow them down before they flower there. I managed to teach him to avoid the purple bearded Irises, and he’ll miss them because he’s seen them bloom and likes them. They definitely had stolons rather than true bulbs.
The lillium tigers I have in my yard were here before me and have a lot to compete with in their little flower bed by the back door. The varieties I planted in another bed out front are also almost certainly lillium “tigers”. but are different colors. they grow taller in the sun and I have seen the arial clones form. In three years, they are at least three times the size they were when planted, but I haven’t tried digging them yet.
There are random other stonoliferous “lillies” in my yard, but most are short enough and cluster such that if you told me they were just small bulbs, I wouldn’t argue. They do not care how much you dig them up and toss them around, they just come right back up. I think they are all yellow, but as the grass and buttercups (and bishop’s weed) gets bushy in most areas they are growing, I cannot say for sure that there are not multiple varieties in that corner. I’m also battling Oriental bittersweet in that corner, and it’s efforts to succeed mean I’ve resorted to drastic measures I almost never try elsewhere.

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