His point was that is was never “from” England in the first place
Come on, you’re just making it up. This question has been discussed for decades. No need to guess now.
If you actually look at an actual Southern Brown Turkey fig, you see that it is more like Celeste. The fruit is much smaller than EBT. See the 4th post in this thread by a guy named AscPete.
https://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-home/182204-brown-turkey-and-celeste-leaf-shape-differences
In any case, so called Southern Brown Turkey is not European Brown Turkey.
p.s. My brother-in-law bought “Brown Turkey” from a box store in northern GA. He gave me an air layer. It was definitely a European Brown Turkey. I also grew Southern Brown Turkey. They are very different.
You can not make up real history. The point of Oglethorpe’s public garden was spreading cuttings and seeds through the Chartered commonwealth.
Size and color are awful metrics of proof. Genetic testing is the only real proof.
Brown Turkey is not even in the same genetic grouping of White Texas, Celeste or Encanto Brown Turkey:
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I’m not challenging history. I’m challenging your claim that the names evolved from European / English Brown Turkey to just Brown Turkey to Southern Brown Turkey. That all sounds possible, but it is known to be wrong.
I have no reason to doubt that Oglethorpe brought European Brown Turkey to Georgia. I also have no reason to doubt that if the last point of origin was England, the American colonists called it English Brown Turkey. And after the American Revolution, they probably dropped the “English.” But THAT Brown Turkey did not become Southern Brown Turkey. Southern Brown Turkey is different.
Is it just me or is there a fig fight brewing?
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Yeah, you’re making my point. The name “Brown Turkey” has been attached to roughly a dozen varieties that are genetically distinct. The “Brown Turkey” on this chart is a match for California Brown Turkey, which any fig grower knows is not the same as other Brown Turkeys. I didn’t see any variety that is a synonym of English/European Brown Turkey.
Yet folks wrongly attribute it to Celeste or Texas White. Even though the genetics are wrong.
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Not to interrupt a good fight, but did this chart come from online somewhere? I’m unable to read it even when saved to my phone and zoomed in. From the comments it sounds like it is legible to others so it’s probably my issue. Hoping I can get direction to the original source so I can view it.
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It’s a name. Who cares? I don’t think hardly anybody who grows California Brown Turkey or Southern Brown Turkey thinks it’s the same as English / European Brown Turkey.
I really dislike both Brown Turkey (California) and an Olympian. Both turd figs here. Of course I get into a lot of trouble by my friends that love them 
Carry on 
It’s a great chart but don’t bet money on accuracy.
Are VdB and Negronne in fact distinct from one another? Both names were used when I was given mine.
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LOL – I couldn’t tell you. Might be pure synonyms.
https://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-home/3084-let-s-talk-english-brown-turkey
Some English Brown Turkey talk.
it came from NIH.
Why is that? Do you think genetic sequencing matching is somehow wrong. The cultivars are arranged by their closest genetic matches…lol
It is quite clear Brown Turkey is much more different from Texas White, Celeste and California{Encanto} then the same.
Of course they show no English Turkey or Southern Turkey so it would be nice to clarify what they mean by “Brown Turkey”. However since it is a study of common American Fig make up; it is likely it is SEBT and not English.
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Danny I believe the testing methods weren’t sound they were using. I can’t recall it’s been a while but Richard schooled me on that chart probably a few years back. He knows a lot more about this stuff than I do.
Right. The entire cluster numbered 99 is California Brown Turkey and its synonyms. The fig labeled “Brown Turkey” (DFIC 17) in the DFIC collection is obviously California Brown Turkey (DFIC 155) ambiguously labeled. It is neither Southern Brown Turkey nor English Brown Turkey.
I grew a number of English Brown Turkey variants/synonyms for a few years. These included LaRadek’s, Bornholm, Olympian and maybe another one or two. I found them to be similar enough to be redundant and so culled the ones which were less healthy, or productive. Large breba crop that ripened over a long period and needed heat to attain best quality. I eventually killed the one I kept but haven’t tried to reacquire it because I have other varieties better suited to my growing conditions